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Hawaii judge halts Trump's new travel ban before it can go into effect

By Dan Levine and Mica Rosenberg

REUTERS

 

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Hawaii Attorney General Douglas Chin answers questions from the media at the U.S. District Court Ninth Circuit after presenting his arguments after filing an amended lawsuit against President Donald Trump's new travel ban in Honolulu, Hawaii, March 15, 2017. REUTERS/Hugh Gentry

 

HONOLULU/NEW YORK (Reuters) - A U.S. federal judge in Hawaii dealt another legal blow to President Donald Trump on Wednesday, issuing an emergency halt to his revised travel ban just hours before it was set to go into effect early on Thursday.

 

U.S. District Judge Derrick Watson put out an emergency stop on Trump's executive order, which aimed to temporarily bar entry to the United States of most refugees as well as travellers from six Muslim-majority countries.

 

Watson said the state of Hawaii showed a strong likelihood of success in its claims that the order violates the establishment clause of the U.S. Constitution, which prevents religious discrimination. Critics of the ban argued it was discriminatory against Muslims.

 

The Republican president has said the policy is critical for national security.

 

The case was one of several that were moving through U.S. courts on Wednesday brought by states' attorneys general and immigrant advocacy groups.

 

Trump's first travel order signed on Jan. 27, which was more sweeping than the second revised order signed on March 6, was also halted by a federal judge.

 

White House spokesman Sean Spicer, asked about the judge's order, did not comment.

 

(Reporting by Dan Levine in Honolulu and Ian Simpson in Greenbelt, Md. Additional reporting by Mica Rosenberg and Jonathan Allen in New York; Writing by Mica Rosenberg; Editing by Peter Cooney and Jonathan Oatis)

 
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Ahab    669
14 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Its a shame that these pesky little things like laws and constitutions keep getting in the way of what could be a great dictatorship

Do you really think terrorists are going to que up and apply to come through the front door. They are probably all moving to saudi, and will pop over on holidays next year.

Except for the fact that by law this is a specified duty of the executive branch. Using your logic, decisions to use military force by the President and congress could be stopped by the court action in a single state because one of its citizens would be inconvenienced or have difficulty getting a Visa for a family member. That is not how the separation of powers between branches of the US government is supposed to work. This will be overturned on appeal.

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daveAustin    8,604
16 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

More people in the US will die at the hands of children this year than at the hands of terrorists ... the vetting in place already is very tight. 

Immaterial drumming up 'normal' statistics. 911 killed, what, only around 3000 compared with 10x that dying on US roads? I guess it's more to do with the fear of the unknown from crazy religious folk. One thing's for sure, if there's an attack from a Somali immigrant in the near future, Twitter will go into override! Btw, cue Trump to call to cede Hawaii back to the islanders. :whistling:

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Peterw42    2,577
3 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Immaterial drumming up 'normal' statistics. 911 killed, what, only around 3000 compared with 10x that dying on US roads? I guess it's more to do with the fear of the unknown from crazy religious folk. One thing's for sure, if there's an attack from a Somali immigrant in the near future, Twitter will go into override! Btw, cue Trump to call to cede Hawaii back to the islanders. :whistling:

You are making the assumption that the Somali immigrant will apply through Somalia to come in the front door. More than likely he will enter as a Canadian tourist going to the Superbowl. 

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Peterw42    2,577
35 minutes ago, Ahab said:

Except for the fact that by law this is a specified duty of the executive branch. Using your logic, decisions to use military force by the President and congress could be stopped by the court action in a single state because one of its citizens would be inconvenienced or have difficulty getting a Visa for a family member. That is not how the separation of powers between branches of the US government is supposed to work. This will be overturned on appeal.

Once power is given that the federal government can make any and all laws, overriding the states. Thats no longer the United "States" of America, thats the "Federal Republic of America". In a union of states, the states empower a federal government to govern on their behalf, but in doing so, reserve the right via separation of powers etc, to remain autonomous. If not, the state borders may as well be taken away tomorrow. Its "for the people by the people" not "for the people by the executive powers of the federal government". 

Yes, the states give executive power in matters of national security, but if the federal Government starts making up or exaggerating a national security threat, anything can be included, immigration, border taxes, civil liberties etc. 

They could shut down the hospitals tomorrow, its a matter of national security, a future terrorist may be born in one of them. 

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Kabula    1,131

After reviewing all the content in this post I can understand why the world is in crisis and why they always take us into a World War when economies and currencies are in trouble!

 

The misinformed's manipipulated, perspective fuels accelerated worldwide protesting, Marshall Law, then into World War.

 

History always repeats itself.

 

For those of you that are not for freedom, but rather a free handout, I invite you to view all the homeless and the rubble of Germany immediately after World War II on UTube.  That is the end game.

 

Be thankful you are here and in time you will see why!

 

The ignorance, misinformation, and anger worldwide is remarkable.

 

Please no comments as you just create more hatred.

 

I've stated fact based on prior history and my current and past observations on the battlefield.

 

A Veteran

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Srikcir    6,387

Wonder if Trump now regrets having been so adamant that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii and his Hawaiian birth certificate issued by the State of Hawaii was a fake? Seems like karma that the State is now stopping Trump's travel ban.

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