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White House says Trump stands by claim Obama wiretapped him

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I can't help feeling that continually forcing the CIA and FBI to respond to/investigate these paranoid fantasies is not a smart move for a President  who wants to remain in power.

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7 minutes ago, Gramps said:

I can't help feeling that continually forcing the CIA and FBI to respond to/investigate these paranoid fantasies is not a smart move for a President  who wants to remain in power.

That depends. It's a distraction from real stuff about him. He isn't a man to quit without a fight. Even if does get to impeachment time, I wouldn't put it past him to try to incite a civil war. His people have guns. 

I know everyone is saying he's crazy, and I have as well. But maybe he's more EVIL than crazy.

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8 hours ago, webfact said:

"There is no question that there were surveillance techniques used throughout this," Spicer said.

This idiot is guaranteed a job for the next four years. He surely "heels" for his master. Feed him some more Purina dog chow. 

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1 minute ago, elgordo38 said:

This idiot is guaranteed a job for the next four years. He surely "heels" for his master. Feed him some more Purina dog chow. 

Who else in their right mind would want that job after they see how Spicer has degraded himself? 

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1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Who else in their right mind would want that job after they see how Spicer has degraded himself? 

We live in desperate times. Trump needs a mouth piece that can dodge anything from questions of truth to maybe flying shoes in the future. Experience is toughening his skin and I am sure he plays mantra tapes under his pillow each night to fall asleep by. The new term "alternate truth" always gives him a way out. 

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I heard something yesterday that rings true and scary. It was from Schumer who said something like the big thing he's worried about is if in the public mind the New York Times and alt right troll site Breitbart are widely seen as equally credible media sources.

If that happens, say goodbye to American democracy, the constitution, the rule of law, the whole ball of wax.

It could definitely happen. 

American democracy was much more fragile than most people thought. We didn't think such an evil movement could rise in the USA, we were supposed to better than that. Apparently not. 

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3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I heard something yesterday that rings true and scary. It was from Schumer who said something like the big thing he's worried about is if in the public mind the New York Times and alt right troll site Breitbart are widely seen as equally credible media sources.

If that happens, say goodbye to American democracy, the constitution, the rule of law, the whole ball of wax.

Actually, it does seem like Trump (or his boss Bannon) is intent upon elevating alt right media to mainstream legitimacy.  This is what I really don't get about Trump.  Does he really believe this stuff he reads in alt right media?  There are certainly disenfranchised (and nutty) people who believes this stuff...but none of them are President of the United States.  This is what's going to be interesting in the coming weeks/months, does the American system really work?  That is, the checks and balances, separation of power, freedom of the press, the Constitution, COMMON SENSE, etc.  If Trump wins, America loses...big time. 

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Yes, the patriotic thing now is the hope for (and actively work for) trump to FAIL. Assuming trump doesn't change his stripes which is an assumption with about a 100 percent chance of being accurate. 

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6 hours ago, Silurian said:

Well, not the FBI but British Intelligence...yeah, that's it...British Intelligence. Have to pick someone that Congress can't investigate.

 

Sean Spicer just suggested that Obama used British intelligence to spy on Trump. Not so much.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/03/16/sean-spicer-just-suggested-that-obama-used-british-intelligence-to-spy-on-trump-not-so-much/?

 

GCHQ usually don't respond to these stupid allegations but for Trump they have made an exception

 

“Recent allegations made by media commentator judge Andrew Napolitano about GCHQ being asked to conduct ‘wiretapping’ against the then president-elect are nonsense,” a GCHQ spokesperson said in a statement. “They are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored.”

 

Of course that won't stop Trump spouting his made up rubbish.  How on earth is this man still allowed to be President?

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It has now been announced that the White House has said it will no longer continue with it's claims that GCHQ wiretapped Trump and have APOLOGISED! Twice!  It is indefensible just what Trump is saying, he is a disgrace to the American people.

 

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Perhaps Trump and his advisers are working on assumption. Reasonable, given the fact that both Obama and the NSA/CIA, et al, and Cameron and GCHQ, were caught with their frillies around their ankles.

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1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

It has now been announced that the White House has said it will no longer continue with it's claims that GCHQ wiretapped Trump and have APOLOGISED! Twice!  It is indefensible just what Trump is saying, he is a disgrace to the American people.

 

I don't know about that. The NSA eavesdropping was a disgrace, and GCHQ were more than just complicit in that episode, yet they got away with a tap on the wrist - with a feather duster.

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3 minutes ago, Jonmarleesco said:

I don't know about that. The NSA eavesdropping was a disgrace, and GCHQ were more than just complicit in that episode, yet they got away with a tap on the wrist - with a feather duster.

Yes, it stands to reason that Obama ordered the NSA/CIA/Brits to spy on Trump because....Benghazi!

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4 hours ago, dunroaming said:

GCHQ usually don't respond to these stupid allegations but for Trump they have made an exception

 

“Recent allegations made by media commentator judge Andrew Napolitano about GCHQ being asked to conduct ‘wiretapping’ against the then president-elect are nonsense,” a GCHQ spokesperson said in a statement. “They are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored.”

 

Of course that won't stop Trump spouting his made up rubbish.  How on earth is this man still allowed to be President?

'... a GCHQ spokesperson said in a statement. “They are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored.”' This from a representative of the British fount of all honesty and ethics. GCHQ is no more to be trusted than the politicians they serve, or any other politician.

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