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"Many foreign victims expected" as two beefy extortionists arrested in Chiang Mai set-up

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5 minutes ago, jenifer d said:

but if they were just extortionists, it is hard to extort somebody who is doing nothing wrong...

add my voice to the chorus that thinks there is much more than we are being told at this point...

 

You're confusing extortion with blackmail.  It's tough to blackmail someone who hasn't done anything wrong.  But extorting them is simple, and extremely common.  Protection rackets around the world are doing it every day.

 

Edit:  That's not to say you can't increase your chances of becoming a victim (by renting a jet-ski for example), but you certainly don't have to do anything wrong.

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2 hours ago, Berkshire said:

I just said that I did not condone nor defend the actions of these behemoths.  What's wrong with you guys?  I just want to know if these dudes go around extorting money from innocent people, or are they in fact debt collectors?  If the latter, most of us are in no danger.  Understand? 

I used to know an English guy in Chiang Mai who became a loan shark. His customers were all Farlangs, as there are many of them scraping by and desperate in Chiang Mai, maybe the majority.

 

He was charging 200% interest, yet this did not deter people borrowing money from him. If someone failed to pay on time or could not pay, he had 4 Thai heavies on his staff that had a means of persuading the debtors that it was in their best interests to pay up. So my guess is that the thugs did not go around extorting money from innocent people at random.

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If they were indeed simple collectors, the debt will not have gone away, and I would suspect the man owed will be somewhat unhappy.

Also unlikely there are only two collectors if it is as big as the police suggest.

I suspect we have not seen the end of this story.

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i think this two blokes had a smart little business going....first legal is super slow here when it comes to get money someone ows u...so they possed as a short cut...it usualy works with fear...they thought we are two really disgusting guys if we look bad everybody is frighten of us....so they pay up quickly and we have our ten percent cut in no time....

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On 3/17/2017 at 3:30 PM, BaldRichard said:

From another Thai service

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That is one ugly fat <deleted>. Was he stealing to finance his eating? Thailand seems to be full of these lardy types, waddling about from bar to bar.

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8 hours ago, webfact said:

Both suspects deny extortion with menaces saying they were just collecting a debt for a foreign friend.

Hmm extortion without a permit. 

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1 hour ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Chiang Mai sounds nice 😀

Like every where else we have our share of riff and raff. 

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The article says the 'victims' name has neen transliterated from Thai ?The  real name of this man may well have been lost in translation.As for deporting these guys why on earth do that? Bang them up.If they have lived here for a lengthy period of time it shouldn't take too long to find some further reasons to extend their stay even longer

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41 minutes ago, cyberfarang said:

I used to know an English guy in Chiang Mai who became a loan shark. His customers were all Farlangs, as there are many of them scraping by and desperate in Chiang Mai, maybe the majority.

 

He was charging 200% interest, yet this did not deter people borrowing money from him. If someone failed to pay on time or could not pay, he had 4 Thai heavies on his staff that had a means of persuading the debtors that it was in their best interests to pay up. So my guess is that the thugs did not go around extorting money from innocent people at random.

if you get yourself in a position that you have to go to a money leader its your own fault as you can see the writing on the wall before you get to that stage. dont borrow money if you cant pay it back. people who do deserve what they get.

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There are some funny comments coming up on Thai FB about this and also good job BIB and lock away the key stuff, rough translations from me:

 

"Thai girls should note tha not all westerners rich or good"

"They are big, like in Pattaya !!!"

"it is still going to be a root to the inmates"

"arrested two people, used the entire station, damn they are big 555"

 

Pretty much the same as TV :)

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ID: 56   Posted (edited)

15 minutes ago, jhonnie said:

The article says the 'victims' name has neen transliterated from Thai ?The  real name of this man may well have been lost in translation.As for deporting these guys why on earth do that? Bang them up.If they have lived here for a lengthy period of time it shouldn't take too long to find some further reasons to extend their stay even longer

The real name is translated a lot better on some Thai sites and quite easy to work out.  First name reported in OP is correct as in Leonard (so also Leo or Len).  It is also being reported thathe mention to Paul as a general whinge that he was owed a debt from a business investment in a restaurant in CM to the extent that he believed he had been dudded by his business partner.  Then we have the grey area where Paul says he was tasked with collecting, while Len says it was just a whinge to a fellow Oz and evidenced that by showing that he had reported the initial business dispute to the Police a few weeks later.  Then alleged that Paul fronts up and says that he and Ad are out of pocket from attempting to collect on disputed business dealing between Len and partner.

 

Anyhow all have been here ten years plus and certainly Len and Ad have wife and kids here, so somewhat sorry for them.  Seeing that you an drive unlicensed of a bridge and kill 9 in Bangkok, and drive into cyclists here in CM and klll and still not be troubled by imprisonment, and that surely a decade in CM had taight them something whether there are prospects for this to go away....after all, it's just about money :smile:  or is this going to go all the way as bad Farangs under the "good guys in, bad guy out" campaign.

 

Or, as so often,  we never hear any more about it again.........until the next arrests

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I say If you owe money make sure that you owe it to a bank not loansharks or mafia lenders ,you could end up dead.say no more!

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2 hours ago, malibukid said:

too much white trash here in CM

I was near Khao San Rd in BKK a couple weeks ago and couldn't help noticing how a lot of the foreigners there looked as if they'd recently been released from a halfway house.  Maybe took the money the prison gave them to buy new clothes and purchased a one-way ticket to Thailand to start a new life.   A lot different from 10 years ago.   

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Humpty dumpty on the left looks like he wouldn't be able to get up if knocked over without a crane.

Nothing scary about these guys, just fat pieces of shit

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1 hour ago, BaldRichard said:

Harley will do it ok.

 

Cannot see riding round with the wife and kids on a Honda Click as being viable

Yeh,a Harley-Davidson FAT BOY 

regards worgeordie

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