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One week to go: Walking Street more like Hell Zone than Happy Zone as man attacked

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13 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Lets u sit in a gogo without order a drink hahaja thats a good one..

Quite, prior to that post, totally unheard off!!!

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1 hour ago, Thaidream said:

Walking Street is living on borrowed time. Each one of these incidents put the nail in the coffin sooner not  later.  The police are irrelevant.  The Army is in control and they don't even tell the police when a raid is coming.  The Army is trying to drive out this type of business and it will not be deterred.

If a bar does not want pictures taken- it needs to put up a prominent sign. Taking a customer out back and threatening his life is called 'terrorist threatening' and illegal in Thailand. I hope he gets plenty of compensation and the bar closed.  

I and many others will be glad when Walking Street is finally gentrified. The place is a drag on the real Thailand and sends the wrong message Worldwide about Thailand. Even if the powers to be did nothing- it will eventually die a natural death- There is a lack of customers; the price of drinks will continually go up until the bars/clubs will have priced themselves out. Why would a tourist want to go to Walking Street with inflated prices; security staff that beat up people; an uncaring police force; and bar staff that could care less whether you ever come back.   There are many other countries that have lower prices; more friendly girls; and you don't have to worry about getting beat up or an inflated bar tab.

I liked your post rather left me with the glass is half full or half empty feeling. Again words by officials mean little to nothing when not backed up by police action. Maybe the police did not get the Happiness zone flyer. 

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I remember when I actually used to enjoy a night out on Walking Street. For at least the last ten years (possibly more) it has become a complete freak show and I can barely stand spending more than five minutes there.

 

I wouldn't want to see them "gentrify" it,  just somehow return it to the way it was in the early nineties. Not much chance of that I guess.

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Maybe its safe to say that incidents in night life areas will always happen whatever name u give for a zone.but a mandatory temporarily closure of a bar once bar staff have started with any type violence against its customers is the only way to have the number of incidents to drop down in the future.first incident one month closure second incident 3 month closure etc etc.I have not heard the police talk about any consequences for a bar in case of misbehaving.

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The reason they cannot bring it back to when it was actually a fun place to go is that Thailand opted for mass tourism and in came the bad and the ugly. In addition, the owners got greedy; the girls became indifferent and the whole mood changed from making an honest Baht to making it anyway we can get it. In addition, most of the girls have no real ties to these establishments. Agencies find them and they are there for one thing only- money and more money. The girls speak poorly about the customers; use drugs and many are alcoholics.  Walking Street now reminds me of the more hardened bar areas in such places as the Reeperbahn in Hamburg; the window prostitutes in Amsterdam and the Combat Zone in Boston USA. Rip offs all around. When it goes the way of  extinction- it won't be missed.

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7 minutes ago, charmonman said:

I remember when I actually used to enjoy a night out on Walking Street. For at least the last ten years (possibly more) it has become a complete freak show and I can barely stand spending more than five minutes there.

 

I wouldn't want to see them "gentrify" it,  just somehow return it to the way it was in the early nineties. Not much chance of that I guess.

Walking street its less in u face and ears now then one year ago.maybe u liked walkingstreet more in the nineties because u was 20 years younger that u are today.

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1 hour ago, payttayasquirt said:

Interesting experience with Indians at a gogo the other night. They were allowed to sit there with no drinks which I thought was incredibly generous. But give them an inch and they take a mile, so one of them started discretely taking pics... Got busted and were immediately set up on by the lady staff screaming at them to delete the pictures this went on for 10 minute's while he refused to hand over his phone at which point the door man strode in, grabbed him by the hair and dragged him outside.

I nearly cheered lol

But the headline will read Indians bashed at gogo

Much of the crappie news on TV is only one sided.. Stupid farang take the bait every time

very true Malaysians are bad at this too buy a bottle water and take pics of the girls with signs everywhere saying no pics this guy almost certainly took the piss and got chucked out

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They are trying to turn the world's biggest brothel into a regular  tourism destination - without addressing any of the structural issues. In other words, their attempt is nothing more than a poorly executed PR campaign.

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Frankly, I never liked it because it is phony and there is no reality to any of the conversations between the customers and the service personnel. Even when speaking in Thai- the smiles are phony; the attitudes are bad and sometimes the girls are not real. It has never really been a fun place because the bars and girls exist for only one reason- to get as much money as they can with the least amount of effort. It has nothing to do with age but understanding what is really gong on behind the smiles.

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The owners in Pattaya are touchy after the Daily Mirror coverage. Yes there have been plenty of UK tabloid exposes of Pattaya before but this time it seems to have hit the mark much more than previously. That accounts for the "Who are you working for" questioning.

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4 hours ago, Bartman1369 said:

Where is this encyclopedia of "resarch" I have lived here 18 months and it's the first I've heard about not taking pictures in a bar. If you cannot use cameras there should be a sign on the entrance to the establishment. 

It's not about a bar, but about a Disco, and yes there are sign inside this one to not take photos.

 

5 hours ago, reallybigken said:

// And what does nationality (owner Indian and he is Indian) have to do with it. //

 

Sorry but the nationality has a lot to do in this case.

This Indian guy was in the Walking Street Indian-owned disco who targets quiet-exclusively people from India and Pakistan. Because this category of people tends to like rather "large" ladies (yes, a generalisation, but real enough) you find in this disco many "African ladies" (mainly from Madagascar) and many large "Russian ladies" (mainly from Afghanistan). The owners clearly don't want too much advertisement about what happens inside this disco, and there are "No photos" signs inside. (Photos are not a problem in many other WS discos). It's still possible to get pics  from your friends by asking to an employee, same as in many agogos.

 

Now taking pictures is not an excuse enough for violence, but I disagree on some previous posts that Pattaya or Walking Street is dangerous for tourists. Tourists usually respect such rules and then have no problems :)

 

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ID: 64   Posted (edited)

5 hours ago, reallybigken said:

Ok, Maybe I'm missing something.

 

"He had been taking some pictures with his mobile phone "

 

He is in side a club on walking street taking pictures, while the government is trying to clean up the area. They have already had a few clubs raided in the last few weeks because of someone calling into the police and complained.

 

And what does nationality (owner Indian and he is Indian) have to do with it.

 

I not condoning there action, if that is really what they did, but I kind of get the feeling they asked him to erase the pictures and/or he mouthed off at them.

 

What happen to the pictures?

 

 

Nah, you didn´t miss much! That about sums it up. The only thing you might have missed, is that they still have 1 week left to fix somthing out of nothing. Irrelevant as usual.
Pictures...??? A wild guess... They got deleted????

Edited by Get Real
Nothing to do! Always like to correct myself too, due to that I never let anybody else do it.

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not very dangerous at all- it's just phony and fake. The only thing they ever care about is how to separate your cash from you and they will go to any lengths to get it.One of the  very worst places in Thailand that there is.

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ID: 66   Posted (edited)

Thrilled they called out the NASA club by name. All of this sounds totally in character with these clubs, and these bouncers, and Pattaya in general. Spread the word. Hopefully it will have a minor impact on their income, and a bigger impact on what is remaining of their reputation. Scumbags. Worms. Cretons. Half men. I would like to see how the average bouncer acts one on one, with a real man, who has fighting skills. My guess if that they would be down on the ground in alot of pain, within a minute or two. Big, brave men in packs of 10, carrying pistols. 

 

Of course the police did not do more. They are virtually owned by these establishments. Enough money and you are above the law. And and all laws. And that include the tiny mans laws. 

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"...in the famed South Pattaya street."

 

Yes, but famous for what?

 

 I guess we'll never know.  

 

If only there was some way to search and find information on what South Pattaya street is famous for?

 

No way will that happen!

 

Onward into the Darkness, bold, brave Pattaya Tourists! 😁

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7 hours ago, Bartman1369 said:

Where is this encyclopedia of "resarch" I have lived here 18 months and it's the first I've heard about not taking pictures in a bar. If you cannot use cameras there should be a sign on the entrance to the establishment. 

Common sense is hard to find,if you haven't got it,you wont last long.

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5 hours ago, LannaGuy said:

very true Malaysians are bad at this too buy a bottle water and take pics of the girls with signs everywhere saying no pics this guy almost certainly took the piss and got chucked out

I saw an Indian walking around an oval bar in the 80's and a girl i knew attacked him with the drinks tray He still gawked at the girls on stage.She said he was known as a pervert and no payer.She must have whacked him 20 times,great theatre.

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7 hours ago, hyku1147 said:

Agreed.Cambodia is developing by leaps and bounds.

Huh,got a long,long way to go.

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7 hours ago, Thaidream said:

Walking Street is living on borrowed time. Each one of these incidents put the nail in the coffin sooner not  later.  The police are irrelevant.  The Army is in control and they don't even tell the police when a raid is coming.  The Army is trying to drive out this type of business and it will not be deterred.

If a bar does not want pictures taken- it needs to put up a prominent sign. Taking a customer out back and threatening his life is called 'terrorist threatening' and illegal in Thailand. I hope he gets plenty of compensation and the bar closed.  

I and many others will be glad when Walking Street is finally gentrified. The place is a drag on the real Thailand and sends the wrong message Worldwide about Thailand. Even if the powers to be did nothing- it will eventually die a natural death- There is a lack of customers; the price of drinks will continually go up until the bars/clubs will have priced themselves out. Why would a tourist want to go to Walking Street with inflated prices; security staff that beat up people; an uncaring police force; and bar staff that could care less whether you ever come back.   There are many other countries that have lower prices; more friendly girls; and you don't have to worry about getting beat up or an inflated bar tab.

BYE-BYE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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1 hour ago, SiSePuede419 said:

"...in the famed South Pattaya street."

 

Yes, but famous for what?

 

 I guess we'll never know.  

 

If only there was some way to search and find information on what South Pattaya street is famous for?

 

No way will that happen!

 

Onward into the Darkness, bold, brave Pattaya Tourists! 😁

How about you go and find out !

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ID: 75   Posted (edited)

34 minutes ago, louse1953 said:

Huh,got a long,long way to go.

Do you live in Cambodia?

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