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Trump unleashes military strikes against Assad airbase in Syria

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6 minutes ago, Rob13 said:

Who makes the cruise missles and whats trumps holdings in that company?:coffee1:

Raytheon makes them and there's no evidence of Trump interests.

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1 minute ago, attrayant said:

What a difference four years makes. 

 

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Did Trump get congressional approval?

Didn't need it for Gorsuch to (eventually) get on the Supreme Court so why should this be any different?

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AFAIK...As commander in chief he can carry out military actions within a set of parameters without going to congress. At some point he needs congress' approval to continue though.0

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9 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

It's already worse than Iraq.  Talking heads on CNN are saying it's highly unlikely US troops will be deployed.  But all options are open now.

 

Too many innocents have been killed by Assad.  Time to stop the silliness.

It's not worse than Iraq for the US and it's allies, which is what I meant.

Assad goes, it won't stop the slaughter. IMO we are now reaping the rewards of colonialism, which used the Roman principle of "divide and rule" to control foreign lands. Assad is of a different culture to the majority of Syrians, and there is little possibility of peace between them. Iraq is still suffering from such.

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7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't know, obviously, but it wouldn't be the first time a government told porkies to enable a response. Remember the Gulf of Tonkin incident?

 

The only reason I even care is because I can't think of a good reason why Assad or his forces would do such a thing, while I can think of loads why IS would.

Gulf of Tonkin?  What year was that? LOL  How about the Trojan Horse. LOL

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Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

It's not worse than Iraq for the US and it's allies, which is what I meant.

Assad goes, it won't stop the slaughter. IMO we are now reaping the rewards of colonialism, which used the Roman principle of "divide and rule" to control foreign lands. Assad is of a different culture to the majority of Syrians, and there is little possibility of peace between them. Iraq is still suffering from such.

Assad and Russia are responsible for the vast majority of casualties.  So it makes sense, getting rid of that will reduce casualties.  Hard for the rebels to kill so many without the advanced weaponry of Russia and what Russia is giving to Syria.

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4 minutes ago, Rob13 said:

AFAIK...As commander in chief he can carry out military actions within a set of parameters without going to congress. At some point he needs congress' approval to continue though.0

Agreed, though it should be only if the US was directly threatened. I would hope that he conferred with the leaders of the house before launching though.

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If the people waging these "wars" were the ones on the front line with a high chance of death or injury, would these wars be "staged"?

Thankfully I am not cannon fodder! Like to see Trump on the front-line!

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2 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Assad and Russia are responsible for the vast majority of casualties.  So it makes sense, getting rid of that will reduce casualties.  Hard for the rebels to kill so many without the advanced weaponry of Russia and what Russia is giving to Syria.

If the rebels overcome Assad's forces in battle, IMO likely they will slaughter everyone on the government side. It's gone too far for shake hands and be friends now.

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2 minutes ago, CGW said:

If the people waging these "wars" were the ones on the front line with a high chance of death or injury, would these wars be "staged"?

Thankfully I am not cannon fodder! Like to see Trump on the front-line!

I believe few if any children of politicians died in Vietnam. I doubt that has changed much.

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Will this ignite WW3? I'm worried about the Russian answer to this strike if any of the Russian Military are hurt.

This does not look very good.

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Whoever perpetrated the murder of innocents with chemical weapons deserve everything they get. I have no sympathy for those monsters whatsoever.

 

But I wonder if there is also a hidden agenda in this missile attack?

 

Perhaps no small coincidence that Trump is in the middle of talking tough to China now and Russia next week.

 

Geopolitically, is it also an indirect attack on Iran, Syria's ally. You have to ask the question cui bono regime change in Syria.

 

If these missile strikes prevent the further barbaric use of chemical weapons, and the US goes back to targeting ISIS...good. If it is the start of something different, watch out.

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1 minute ago, dexterm said:

Whoever perpetrated the murder of innocents with chemical weapons deserve everything they get. I have no sympathy for those monsters whatsoever.

 

But I wonder if there is also a hidden agenda in this missile attack?

 

Perhaps no small coincidence that Trump is in the middle of talking tough to China now and Russia next week.

 

Geopolitically, is it also an indirect attack on Iran, Syria's ally. You have to ask the question cui bono regime change in Syria.

 

If these missile strikes prevent the further barbaric use of chemical weapons, and the US goes back to targeting ISIS...good. If it is the start of something different, watch out.

Whoever being the operative word. Has it yet been established beyond any doubt that Assad did it? IS must be lovin' it.

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Wow!  I didn't expect this, especially after Hillary called for it.  Will this really help?  Sounds like the Russians were warned that it would take place.  It wouldn't surprise me that the Russians in turn warned the Syrians.  The damage may have been largely avoided.  No matter what we do here we help a faction that hates us. I hate seeing innocent children targeted and hurt when we could act, but I also believe most of those children will grow up to hate us no matter how sincere we are about our humanitarian responsibilities.  I was starting to see it the Obama way - do nothing.

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14 minutes ago, beechguy said:

And what innocents is Trump slaughtering? Appears to be a limited strike, on a military base. But no need to let the facts get in the way for the ignorant is there.

Well noted! some "ignorant" may not realise bombs kill people, commonly refereed to as collateral damage....

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2 minutes ago, CGW said:

Well noted! some "ignorant" may not realise bombs kill people, commonly refereed to as collateral damage....

Few on a military base are innocent.  Civilian or otherwise.  They know what's going on.

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26 minutes ago, oz457 said:

Will this ignite WW3? I'm worried about the Russian answer to this strike if any of the Russian Military are hurt.

This does not look very good.

Suits me. I think we all need to go and give the plants and animals a chance. What a mess we've made.

 

As to the price of the missiles... gotta replace them of course, but the money has already been spent so may as well use em on the perps. :wink:

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