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Trump unleashes military strikes against Assad airbase in Syria

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3 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Libya is better off than Syria.  But yes, both places are a mess.  No easy answers.

No easy answers.

Exactly, and in my opinion, none that turn out well for anyone.

If the US bombs Assad out of power it will be a civil war between all the opposing rebel groups. If it sends in troops, it will be worse than Iraq.

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6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No dispute that that is horrible, but one must know who to take the fight too, and that is by no means clear so far, I believe. Entirely possible it was done by IS, or as I think the Russians said, caused when a rebel gas depot was hit by non gas weapons.

Obama back tracked on his threat to "do something" before, but he made the right decision, IMO.

Yes, we definitely need all the facts.

 

Nevil Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler is  a lesson from history that is frequently ignored.

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6 minutes ago, Rob13 said:

Who makes the cruise missles and whats trumps holdings in that company?:coffee1:

Raytheon makes them and there's no evidence of Trump interests.

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1 minute ago, attrayant said:

What a difference four years makes. 

 

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Did Trump get congressional approval?

Didn't need it for Gorsuch to (eventually) get on the Supreme Court so why should this be any different?

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AFAIK...As commander in chief he can carry out military actions within a set of parameters without going to congress. At some point he needs congress' approval to continue though.0

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9 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

It's already worse than Iraq.  Talking heads on CNN are saying it's highly unlikely US troops will be deployed.  But all options are open now.

 

Too many innocents have been killed by Assad.  Time to stop the silliness.

It's not worse than Iraq for the US and it's allies, which is what I meant.

Assad goes, it won't stop the slaughter. IMO we are now reaping the rewards of colonialism, which used the Roman principle of "divide and rule" to control foreign lands. Assad is of a different culture to the majority of Syrians, and there is little possibility of peace between them. Iraq is still suffering from such.

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7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't know, obviously, but it wouldn't be the first time a government told porkies to enable a response. Remember the Gulf of Tonkin incident?

 

The only reason I even care is because I can't think of a good reason why Assad or his forces would do such a thing, while I can think of loads why IS would.

Gulf of Tonkin?  What year was that? LOL  How about the Trojan Horse. LOL

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Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

It's not worse than Iraq for the US and it's allies, which is what I meant.

Assad goes, it won't stop the slaughter. IMO we are now reaping the rewards of colonialism, which used the Roman principle of "divide and rule" to control foreign lands. Assad is of a different culture to the majority of Syrians, and there is little possibility of peace between them. Iraq is still suffering from such.

Assad and Russia are responsible for the vast majority of casualties.  So it makes sense, getting rid of that will reduce casualties.  Hard for the rebels to kill so many without the advanced weaponry of Russia and what Russia is giving to Syria.

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4 minutes ago, Rob13 said:

AFAIK...As commander in chief he can carry out military actions within a set of parameters without going to congress. At some point he needs congress' approval to continue though.0

Agreed, though it should be only if the US was directly threatened. I would hope that he conferred with the leaders of the house before launching though.

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If the people waging these "wars" were the ones on the front line with a high chance of death or injury, would these wars be "staged"?

Thankfully I am not cannon fodder! Like to see Trump on the front-line!

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2 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Assad and Russia are responsible for the vast majority of casualties.  So it makes sense, getting rid of that will reduce casualties.  Hard for the rebels to kill so many without the advanced weaponry of Russia and what Russia is giving to Syria.

If the rebels overcome Assad's forces in battle, IMO likely they will slaughter everyone on the government side. It's gone too far for shake hands and be friends now.

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2 minutes ago, CGW said:

If the people waging these "wars" were the ones on the front line with a high chance of death or injury, would these wars be "staged"?

Thankfully I am not cannon fodder! Like to see Trump on the front-line!

I believe few if any children of politicians died in Vietnam. I doubt that has changed much.

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Will this ignite WW3? I'm worried about the Russian answer to this strike if any of the Russian Military are hurt.

This does not look very good.

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