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Trump unleashes military strikes against Assad airbase in Syria

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Good old Ron Paul and his appeals to ignorance.

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1 hour ago, steven100 said:

I hope they blow the Assad regime off the face of the planet .....   It cannot make it any worse for the people there. 

You are forgetting what happened to Iraq and Libya. So is Trump. Those were sectarian conflicts which persist to this day as sectarian conflicts. That sort of thing doesn't go away unless it is fixed at root. Syria is exactly the same. Removing Assad will only unleash a hornet's nest of worse conflict.

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1 minute ago, attrayant said:

Good old Ron Paul and his appeals to ignorance.

IMO he has got it right. 

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3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO he has got it right. 

yup I just don't think Assad is that stupid and the whole world is being 'set-up' again 

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He hasn't said anything to "get right".  He's just making a broad appeal to incredulity.  "I can't believe this really happened, so therefore it didn't."

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40 minutes ago, oz457 said:

Will this ignite WW3? I'm worried about the Russian answer to this strike if any of the Russian Military are hurt.

This does not look very good.

Apparently the sections of the base where the Iwans dwell(ed) have been spared ... 

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5 minutes ago, sujoop said:

Called it correctly yesterday (below):
 

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Assad has the upper hand now so did not need to risk a renewed backlash. So, who besides Assad has free range of air space in Syria? Trump's pal, comrade Putin (Russia also has monitor control over Syria's chemical weapons).  This despicable act comes as Russia-Gate was dominating and increasingly revealing complicit ties between Trump's Whitehouse & Russia. But now, suddenly Trump & Putin appear on opposite sides. (pure theatre)


The situation in Syria could now make for a mutually convenient, distracting, 'theatre' of faux confrontation between Russia and the Whitehouse. Trump could order a couple strategic air strikes on Syrian bases or chemical targets, with Russia threatening back but it's only theatre. Meanwhile all the steam behind Whitehouse/Russia-Gate evaporates ...
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Doubters, one logical question: Since Russia defacto controls Shayrat Airbase and also monitors Syria's chemical weapons, how did the chemical attack happen in the first place if not under direction of Putin and for what purpose?

 

Next up, onto N Korea for even more wag-the-dog dangerous distractions.

 

 

In 2013 it was reported the Syrian regime had no chemical weapons, whilst it is known some rebel factions are in possession 

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36 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Few on a military base are innocent.  Civilian or otherwise.  They know what's going on.

Conscripted or otherwise, earning a daily wage, same as USA bases - never realised - thanks.

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29 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Cruise missiles are not bombs and they go where intended. Air bases don't have collateral casualties.

CNN just showed a graphic. They targeted airplanes. Runways and fuel depots. Nothing else.

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1 hour ago, craigt3365 said:

Libya is better off than Syria.  But yes, both places are a mess.  No easy answers.

But some answers are easier than others. The easiest, and the best for everybody in Syria, is to let Assad keep a lid on the sectarian conflict. The only other option is partition of this artificial country, which ISIS have already attempted.

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12 minutes ago, rockingrobin said:
21 minutes ago, sujoop said:

Called it correctly yesterday (below):
 

------------
Assad has the upper hand now so did not need to risk a renewed backlash. So, who besides Assad has free range of air space in Syria? Trump's pal, comrade Putin (Russia also has monitor control over Syria's chemical weapons).  This despicable act comes as Russia-Gate was dominating and increasingly revealing complicit ties between Trump's Whitehouse & Russia. But now, suddenly Trump & Putin appear on opposite sides. (pure theatre)


The situation in Syria could now make for a mutually convenient, distracting, 'theatre' of faux confrontation between Russia and the Whitehouse. Trump could order a couple strategic air strikes on Syrian bases or chemical targets, with Russia threatening back but it's only theatre. Meanwhile all the steam behind Whitehouse/Russia-Gate evaporates ...
--------------
 

Doubters, one logical question: Since Russia defacto controls Shayrat Airbase and also monitors Syria's chemical weapons, how did the chemical attack happen in the first place if not under direction of Putin and for what purpose?

 

Next up, onto N Korea for even more wag-the-dog dangerous distractions.

 

 

In 2013 it was reported the Syrian regime had no chemical weapons, whilst it is known some rebel factions are in possession 

 

So, you are saying the 'rebels' (which Syria & Russia are fighting) somehow managed to commandeer planes from the Soviet controlled airbase in Syria where the Trump administration states the chemical attack originated from?

'The missile launch was directed at a government air force base where a chemical attack was launched on Syrian civilians April 4.'

I take back one part of my earlier prediction - Putin the theatre director will now have to retaliate to close the curtain for this particular act. Hopefully Donnie's role will not cause a ripple effect in the region or worse.

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1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Agreed, though it should be only if the US was directly threatened. I would hope that he conferred with the leaders of the house before launching though.

No need. But he did appear to advise the Russians that they needed to vacate those particular premises ahead of the strikes.

 

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I believe few if any children of politicians died in Vietnam. I doubt that has changed much.

Of course you are speaking for the children of Vietnamese politicians as well?

 

1 hour ago, oz457 said:

Will this ignite WW3? I'm worried about the Russian answer to this strike if any of the Russian Military are hurt.

This does not look very good.

As stated, the Russians were advised in advance.

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52 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

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You are quoting a hugely irrelevant also-ran.

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1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Agreed, though it should be only if the US was directly threatened. I would hope that he conferred with the leaders of the house before launching though.

You're both missing the point. He required Obama to get Congressional approval before taking any action, but that standard apparently does not apply to himself.

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47 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Cruise missiles are not bombs and they go where intended. Air bases don't have collateral casualties.

Thanks for correcting my terminology, so its not a guided bomb? nice to know they go where intended, & if they don't? Never mind eh, as you have stated no casualties!

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30 minutes ago, rockingrobin said:

In 2013 it was reported the Syrian regime had no chemical weapons, whilst it is known some rebel factions are in possession 

...and of course the rebels have the know ability to deliver such chemical weapons by air.

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28 minutes ago, rockingrobin said:

In 2013 it was reported the Syrian regime had no chemical weapons, whilst it is known some rebel factions are in possession 

That was actually a lie. And we all believe our own lies. 

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16 minutes ago, sujoop said:

 

So, you are saying the 'rebels' (which Syria & Russia are fighting) somehow managed to commandeer planes from the Soviet controlled airbase in Syria where the Trump administration states the chemical attack originated from?

'The missile launch was directed at a government air force base where a chemical attack was launched on Syrian civilians April 4.'

I take back one part of my earlier prediction - Putin the theatre director will now have to retaliate to close the curtain for this particular act. Hopefully Donnie's role will not cause a ripple effect in the region or worse.

None of the news reports I saw said anything about planes dropping anything. If the rebels did it they could have just detonated gas bombs remotely on the ground.

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16 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

You are quoting a hugely irrelevant also-ran.

And you are supporting a hugely malevolent con-man.

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14 minutes ago, CGW said:

Thanks for correcting my terminology, so its not a guided bomb? nice to know they go where intended, & if they don't? Never mind eh, as you have stated no casualties!

Hmmmm. I said no "collateral" casualties, not "no" casualties.

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2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

None of the news reports I saw said anything about planes dropping anything. If the rebels did it they could have just detonated gas bombs remotely on the ground.

Well that's a rather bizarre statement since even the Syrians actually said they were carrying out air raids that targeted the rebels' chemical warehouse (which they say belonged to the al-Nusra Front, not ISIS). 

 

Assad has shown many times that he would quite happily obliterate the opposition to him whatever their affiliation. An attack like this doesn't mean he's stupid, just that he's done it before and thinks he can get away with it. To think it's some kind of conspiracy seems much more implausible IMO and some genuine evidence would be interesting.

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ID: 74   Posted (edited)

2 hours ago, Rob13 said:

Who makes the cruise missles and whats trumps holdings in that company?:coffee1:

Raytheon is the manufacturer.

 

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News from 9.11.2016

 

Raytheon (RTN) shares soared into buy range Wednesday as defense contractors took flight on the wings of Donald Trump's victory in the U.S. presidential election but sales to foreign countries could take a hit.

 

http://www.investors.com/news/raytheon-launched-into-buy-range-on-trump-win-defense-stocks-rally/

Edited by alocacoc

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3 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said:

Well that's a rather bizarre statement since even the Syrians actually said they were carrying out air raids that targeted the rebels' chemical warehouse (which they say belonged to the al-Nusra Front, not ISIS). 

 

Assad has shown many times that he would quite happily obliterate the opposition to him whatever their affiliation. An attack like this doesn't mean he's stupid, just that he's done it before and thinks he can get away with it. To think it's some kind of conspiracy seems much more implausible IMO and some genuine evidence would be interesting.

some genuine evidence would be interesting.

AGREED!!!!!

So far there is sod all, just a load of people saying what they think as if it's fact. Ron Paul has got it right.

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