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Trump unleashes military strikes against Assad airbase in Syria

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And you are supporting a hugely malevolent con-man.


And you're siding with Putin.

Maybe we should stop this petty 'guilt by association' and stick to presenting the facts as reported by eye witnesses, experts and world leaders, like this:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/world/middleeast/chemical-attack-syria.html

The statement was issued hours after Syria’s foreign minister challenged accounts by witnesses, experts and world leaders that his government had carried out the attack.
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1 minute ago, attrayant said:

 


And you're siding with Putin.

Maybe we should stop this petty 'guilt by association' and stick to presenting the facts as reported by eye witnesses, experts and world leaders, like this:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/world/middleeast/chemical-attack-syria.html
 

 

this link proves what?  we know it was sarin - who supplied it? why would Assad do it?   OPEN your mind

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Whatever that's supposed to mean. Open my mind and just let any stray thought wander in?

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38 minutes ago, sujoop said:
1 hour ago, rockingrobin said:
1 hour ago, sujoop said:

Called it correctly yesterday (below):
 

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Assad has the upper hand now so did not need to risk a renewed backlash. So, who besides Assad has free range of air space in Syria? Trump's pal, comrade Putin (Russia also has monitor control over Syria's chemical weapons).  This despicable act comes as Russia-Gate was dominating and increasingly revealing complicit ties between Trump's Whitehouse & Russia. But now, suddenly Trump & Putin appear on opposite sides. (pure theatre)


The situation in Syria could now make for a mutually convenient, distracting, 'theatre' of faux confrontation between Russia and the Whitehouse. Trump could order a couple strategic air strikes on Syrian bases or chemical targets, with Russia threatening back but it's only theatre. Meanwhile all the steam behind Whitehouse/Russia-Gate evaporates ...
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Doubters, one logical question: Since Russia defacto controls Shayrat Airbase and also monitors Syria's chemical weapons, how did the chemical attack happen in the first place if not under direction of Putin and for what purpose?

 

Next up, onto N Korea for even more wag-the-dog dangerous distractions.

 

 

In 2013 it was reported the Syrian regime had no chemical weapons, whilst it is known some rebel factions are in possession 

 

So, you are saying the 'rebels' (which Syria & Russia are fighting) somehow managed to commandeer planes from the Soviet controlled airbase in Syria where the Trump administration states the chemical attack originated from?

'The missile launch was directed at a government air force base where a chemical attack was launched on Syrian civilians April 4.'

I take back one part of my earlier prediction - Putin the theatre director will now have to retaliate to close the curtain for this particular act. Hopefully Donnie's role will not cause a ripple effect in the region or worse.

15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

None of the news reports I saw said anything about planes dropping anything. If the rebels did it they could have just detonated gas bombs remotely on the ground.

So, are you saying that Trump's administration is lying and the chemical attack did not originate from the defacto Russian controlled Shayrat air Base in Syria which Trump retaliated against? (it's all pure orchestrated theatre anyways, no need to add to it). Meanwhile, with all this blowing up out of seemingly nowhere, suddenly no one is talking about the former top topic about complicit Trump Whitehouse/Russia-Gate election gerry-mandering and financial ties,  plus this suddenly 'appears' to make Trump/Putin look like opponents  (thus, mission accomplished).


To 'wag the dog' means to purposely divert attention from what would otherwise be of greater importance.

Still, news cycles  require that more distractions will be needed soon. Next up, N Korea.

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15 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

this link proves what?  we know it was sarin - who supplied it? why would Assad do it?   OPEN your mind

Because he can. Because he's done it before and got away with it. Because he's consistently taken a ruthless line with all opposition to him. He's had sarin before that was supposedly decommissioned but was probably just a sham that should have been dealt with by the US and the Russians at the time.

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11 minutes ago, attrayant said:

 


And you're siding with Putin.

Maybe we should stop this petty 'guilt by association' and stick to presenting the facts as reported by eye witnesses, experts and world leaders, like this:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/world/middleeast/chemical-attack-syria.html
 

 

So I am calling Trump for what he is and suddenly that makes me 'siding with Putin'. It is a remark that not even a prepubescent schoolboy would make. Ignorant in the extreme. Suddenly now bombs have gone off you expect the "you are either with us or against us " mentality. So launching 59 cruise missiles is suddenly supposed to give absolution to Trump for his abominable behaviour so far? It makes me gag.

 

Yes how about you stick to 'presenting the facts', but before you do that you have to find them out. The facts are there was an air raid and that subsequently gas was dispersed. The gas was NOT Sarin, lets get that straight. The attack is completely inline with accounts that a rebel ammo dump was being attacked. It seems the ammo dump contained CHLORINE gas. The Mig 22 in the Syrian AirForce are not capable of delivering chemical weapons. 

 

So now you are believing Turkish Intelligence over others?? The intel on the attack is not from US or UK intel it is from Turkey, you know that country whose President is currently trying to instil anarchy in Europe and wants large swathes of Syria to suit his own purposes (that's the man whose son was transporting billions of dollars of Syrian Oil out of Syria).

 

The ineptitude of world leaders and the corresponding inability of some people on here to engage their brain in free, rational thinking has me worrying for the future of the human race.

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21 minutes ago, sujoop said:

So, are you saying that Trump's administration is lying....

 

The Trump organisation would never lie.....

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At last....a leader with BALLS!!!

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8 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

At last....a leader with BALLS!!!

You mean like Bush, Lyndon Johnson and all the others who leapt with both feet into a conflict because they wanted to bomb something?

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2 hours ago, ddavidovsky said:

But some answers are easier than others. The easiest, and the best for everybody in Syria, is to let Assad keep a lid on the sectarian conflict. The only other option is partition of this artificial country, which ISIS have already attempted.

Assad started this mess. Syria will be better off without him. The opposition won't allow him to start. 

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1 hour ago, Andaman Al said:

Well I hope the Donald is committed to this now as by wiping out Assad's Airforce ISIS will now be holding parties across the Middle East. I do not believe Assad used chemical weapons, he had zero to gain. Others had plenty to gain.

 

I expect Putin may shortly release video's of the Donald being pissed on by hookers in a Moscow Hotel.

Of course he is not committed, he was again shooting from the hip. 2 days ago Assad could stay, now his bases are being bombed.

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3 hours ago, darksidedog said:

The Americans would seem to have some information on where the planes took off from, that launched the chemical strike.

50 Missiles is a lot, so I guess the idea was to render the place completely unusable again.

My guess is America has been gathering intelligence on this air base for a long time now, a blue print for this attack was pulled out of a filling cabinet and dusted down on Wednesday.

 

I further predict the rhetoric of Russia and America is somewhat different from what is said in private and Russia may have agreed to this attack being able to conveniently move hardware and personnel out of harms way, Russia was certainly forewarned, when I do not know but I wonder when the Russians told Assad?

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2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Of course he is not committed, he was again shooting from the hip. 2 days ago Assad could stay, now his bases are being bombed.

My guess it was not his idea...

 

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ID: 99   Posted (edited)

1 hour ago, LannaGuy said:

this link proves what?  we know it was sarin - who supplied it? why would Assad do it?   OPEN your mind

I'll further note that your reply came exactly one minute after I posted a link to a 1,344 word article.  That means either that you read at a speed of 23 words per second or that you're not even willing to look at what is being put right in front of you.

 

Now who has the closed mind?

 

As for who supplied it and Assad's motivations, that's not what we're discussing.  All evidence points to this being a government-led attack.

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ID: 100   Posted (edited)

A narcissist and a sociopath meet surreptitiously:

 

Sociopath: I'll help get you elected & cover your financial ties
Narcissist: Sounds terrific, I'm IN!

Sociopath: Too much press now about our 'relationship' but I have a plan
Narcissist: Sounds terrific, I'm IN!

Sociopath: We'll setup the 'wet-work' then you strike back and get to look like a strong leader with a heart
Narcissist: Sounds terrific, I'm IN!

Sociopath: Done and now no one is talking about us being BFF's anymore and we can get back to the real game plan
Narcissist: Sounds terrific, I'm IN!

Sociopath thinking to self: (child's play, what a idiot, ah well, it's all working out, onto the Balkans etc)
Narcissist thinking to self: (I'm going to be remembered as the BIGLIEST, it's all working out, now onto N Korea etc)

 

Bigliest WHAT is the question....

 

 

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