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Pattaya woman demands 5,000 baht before she will return iPhone she found in 7/11 saying she's within her rights

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you can take a Thai out of 7/11 but you can't take the 'Thainess' out of a Thai

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Agree to meet her, give her good slap and take the phone back.

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Stealing from a shop- normal rule is to pay 10 times the value.

In this case 30,000 baht x 10.

Lock her up until somebody comes up with the 300,000 baht. Case closed!!

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Any ways to use to retrieve that phone would be useless so declare it lost and erase all info's on it and get a new one with different number and that little smart ass would have a useless phone.

Welcome to Thailand the land of smiles so do not cry and carry on hollidays are nice and short some time.

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3 hours ago, onemorechang said:

She removed it from the 7/11

it was not her property , so arrest her for theft.

and charge her also  for extortion. :bah:

extortion would require the element of threats of violence, bodily harm, etc. Don't think it applies here. But theft may very well apply as this iphone became and was the property of the 7-11 when the finder grabbed it, and would remain the property of 7-11 until the rightful owner came forward to claim it, if found on public property, finder is the sole owner until rightful owner claims it. This is all BNA law and may not apply in Thailand though.

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Not always.
 
My wallet fell out of my pocket one night while getting out of the car to open the gate.  Didn't realize it until late next morning.  Checked my iBanking and credit cards, no activity.
 
One of my wife's friends called and brought our attention to a post on a Thai Facebook page with a photo of my US driver's license!  Turned out to be the Headman in a small village about 10 minutes away.  Went out there, said a local resident found my wallet and turned it in.  Everything still there, including 800 some odd Baht in cash.   Tried to give the Headman a "thanks" presento, he was having none of it.

What?! How dare you spoil a good ol Thai bashing thread.



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4 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

In any normal society she would return the phone and be satisfied she did the "right" thing. Any reward offered by the owner would be a bonus .
But, it would appear we are not in a normal society ☹️

In a Normal society popping it into a postbox would ensure it reached home.

 

7/11 CCTV would have been my first port of call, providing I knew where I'd lost it. I would then ask them to explain how Joe public could nick it.

 

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I am sure if it had been a St. Ferang who found it they would of spent days tracking the owner down and paid her to take it back cos they are all sooooooo honest :)

 

 

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No, genius. They'd have simply turned it in at the counter. I very much doubt any would be stupid as well as malicious enough to try and hold it for ransom!

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No, genius. They'd have simply turned it in at the counter. I very much doubt any would be stupid as well as malicious enough to try and hold it for ransom!

No course not. Its a Thai exclusive club.


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4 hours ago, Chug said:

when a person fails to return property owned by another person, it is theft no matter what distorted thinking they have conjured up in their tiny mind.

 

Yes, it is OFFENCE OF MISAPPROPRIATION under the Thai Criminal Code:

 

Section 352 Whoever,  being  in possession  of  a property belonging  to the  other  person,  or of  which  the other person is a co-owner, dishonestly convert s such property to himself or a third person,is said to commit misappropriation, and shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding three years or fined not exceeding six thousand Baht, or both. If such  property  comes under  the possession  of  the offender on account  of being delivered to  him  by  the  other  person  by  mistake  by  any  means  whatever,  or  being  a  lost  property found by him, the offender shall be liable to one-half of the punishment.

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What?! How dare you spoil a good ol Thai bashing thread.



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5 hours ago, dcsw53 said:

Shame they did not name the bar she works in, it would be useful to boycott the place if they employ dubious characters like this.

This not the land of names this is not the land of shames. This is the land of computer crimes and if you read closely you will find it rhymes.

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8 hours ago, Kasset Tak said:

Report the "finder" to the police for steeling the Iphone as it was not hers to take from the 7-11 store in the first place! They should also add extortion or what ever it should be as she refuse to give it back even when offered a 1000 Baht "finders fee" and maybe they should add fencing too as she is basically trying to sell stolen goods!

Yo...This is Thailand...Not Vermont...!

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At the same time she could just have shut up and keep it ? So people thinking that 5000 is too much might prefer to bu ya new one for 30000 ?

As always, people pretending to know what is right or wrong...

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ID: 69   Posted (edited)

Good Buddhist? Surprised she just didn't take it and flog it. Next life, maybe, maybe not?

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10 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Even more pathetic off topic reply from a ferang with the inability to think for himself. 
Just for the record I've no desire to be a Thai. Nor have I the desire to be a populist by jumping on every bandwagon that goes completely OTT every time a Thai does something wrong. 
 

"Just for the record I've no desire to be a Thai." Just for the record, you're either a Thai or you're not. :coffee1:

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9 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

In any normal society she would return the phone and be satisfied she did the "right" thing. Any reward offered by the owner would be a bonus .
But, it would appear we are not in a normal society ☹️

I would substitute the word "ideal" for "Normal", in the majority of cases in most parts of the world it would not get returned. It would have been kept or sold. I left mine in a tuktuk once and went back to where the guy worked out of and no one would help. I would guess maybe on the average  10% of incidents would result in a return. I have seen a good cross section between the good, the bad, and the ugly aspects of human nature through many travels including touring as a rock and roll musician. 

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8 hours ago, Sooo Upto Me said:

Yes it's theft, at the very least she should have handed it over to the 7-11 staff as it was found on their premises. If she found it out on the road then she would have a case to ask for a small reward.

Thank god she's not my gf. 😈😈

In the UK theft has to include the essential element of "the intention of permanently depriving".  Hence in this case, as she is offering to return the phone,  I suspect there would have to be another charge.  Extortion sounds good to me but I don't know much about that.

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I would substitute the word "ideal" for "Normal", in the majority of cases in most parts of the world it would not get returned. It would have been kept or sold. I left mine in a tuktuk once and went back to where the guy worked out of and no one would help. I would guess maybe on the average  10% of incidents would result in a return. I have seen a good cross section between the good, the bad, and the ugly aspects of human nature through many travels including touring as a rock and roll musician. 

Yes I agree " ideal " would have been better .

Also agree that anywhere in the world the phone would be long gone.

I think what makes this thread stand out is the audacity of the woman to publicly hold the phone for ransom !!
I can see her idea but definitely think it was a bad one !!

I myself have been lucky in this area, left my iPad in the airplane seat pocket on 2 occasions but both times managed to recover it, had to buy a Turkish visa to get it back one time as was in transit !, but $30 is better than $900 !

I guess the worst I had was leaving a flash memory in a hotels business centre after printing some documents, I remembered just as I was waiting for the elevator and went straight back to find it gone and the only occupant was a Mexican teenager who swore blind he'd not seen it.
I knew he had it and he knew i knew he had it but just wasn't worth making a scene, nothing valuable on it.

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People who forget things deserve to be stolen. I never forgot or lost anything my whole life, not because I am a super hero but just because I have a brain and I care my stuff !

 

 

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