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Special Report: Phuket hospitals facing huge losses from uninsured patients

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Vachira should get reimbursed from the Taxi and Tuk Tuk cartel, as they are highly overcharging every visitor using their "services"

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The big wigs of Phuket should indepedent take care about this subject. They generate more per day by the tourists and spend not less then this sum for a MiaNoi car.

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6 minutes ago, helloagain said:

4.3 m baht is not a huge loss. What is their OVERALL PROFIT. and why are their prices sky high when everything is cheaper than england.......land hospital sits on. Staff wages are cheaper etc etc etc. And when its time to pay you are asked if you have insurance. If you do have then the price goes way up which makes insurance policies too expensive to buy.....catch 22. Hospitals stop ripping people off should be the headline news. Hospitals you really do extract the urine

Vachira is no private hospital and has for sure no sky high prices!

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The following article states there is over 300,000 migrant workers in Phuket, half of whom have no medical insurance and cannot/do not pay their bills - the bill for treating migrant workers by the three main governement hospitals in 2016 was a whopping 94 million baht. A write off of 2.7 million baht per year is paltry  when you consider those numbers: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30305745

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ID: 23   Posted (edited)

15 hours ago, smedly said:

This country makes a huge amount of money from tourists, it is a vital part of GDP and has been the case for decades, the problem is that there are no safety standards or at least they are not enforced making Thailand (no matter how much they claim otherwise) and extremely dangerous place to holiday.

 

The costs quoted in the OP are not only tiny but are very likely exaggerated, when you consider the actual cost in terms of labour and materials without profit it is no where near what they are quoting.

 

Yes people should have insurance when they go on holiday but equally there is a duty of care to keep visitors safe when they visit Thailand, when they are injured through no fault of their own then Thailand should be willing to step up and compensate. 

 

They have gotten away with this for far too long, they have had decades to improve things but instead stuffed the money in their greedy pockets showing no consideration to improve their health and safety.........and yes I for once agree in this instance of that commonly used Thai phrase - well if they hadn't come to Thailand it wouldn't have happened so it must be their fault, might be time for people to rethink their holiday destinations.

 

If a Thai goes to the UK on holiday they will be treated in hospital like everyone else, the difference being that the likelihood of something happening to them is vastly different.

 

 

So a few million here and there .................so what, you are making trillions in tourism.

So if some drunk idiot on a motorbike who even don't wear an helmet, has an accident, he should not  have to pay for his medical bills.

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13 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

Sensible for tourists of course - but what would you suggest for the nearly 3 million resident expats who already live here, many of whom have lived here for ten years or more, are over the 70, have pre-existing conditions and are unable to buy health insurance in Thailand.

How very true.  Even the airlines won't insure you for travel only,  once you are 75.

I've been zapped twice through faulty electrical wiring, wrecked a pair of expensive glasses on a Chiang Mai footpath pothole, gave up the m/bike 2 years ago.    It's never boring!!

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ID: 26   Posted (edited)

3 minutes ago, trawler said:

In order to get a Schengen visa for my Thai wife I had to prove that we had a minimum of Euro 30000 health insurance coverage.This applies to all Thais applying for visa's to Europe.So whats wrong with requiring that tourists to Thailand have similar coverage??????

If you wish to live in a foreign country where you are ineligible for local health care then surely you have either health insurance or self cover.

This is common sense and stating that lots of expats here cannot get coverage is not a excuse for becoming a burden on a foreign country.

This nanny state mentality is becoming so pervasive that people are not thinking anything through for themselves.

Talking about not thinking things through: I don't believe it's the farang expats who are the burden, if you read the earlier link provided it seems the greater problem is the 150,000 foreign workers in Phuket who have no insurance and no money.

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16 hours ago, smedly said:

This country makes a huge amount of money from tourists, it is a vital part of GDP and has been the case for decades, the problem is that there are no safety standards or at least they are not enforced making Thailand (no matter how much they claim otherwise) and extremely dangerous place to holiday.

 

The costs quoted in the OP are not only tiny but are very likely exaggerated, when you consider the actual cost in terms of labour and materials without profit it is no where near what they are quoting.

 

Yes people should have insurance when they go on holiday but equally there is a duty of care to keep visitors safe when they visit Thailand, when they are injured through no fault of their own then Thailand should be willing to step up and compensate. 

 

They have gotten away with this for far too long, they have had decades to improve things but instead stuffed the money in their greedy pockets showing no consideration to improve their health and safety.........and yes I for once agree in this instance of that commonly used Thai phrase - well if they hadn't come to Thailand it wouldn't have happened so it must be their fault, might be time for people to rethink their holiday destinations.

 

If a Thai goes to the UK on holiday they will be treated in hospital like everyone else, the difference being that the likelihood of something happening to them is vastly different.

 

 

So a few million here and there .................so what, you are making trillions in tourism.

Fair comment, but when I see the Russian family up the road going 4 up on a scooter, the youngest probably about 2 or 3 years old, all wearing helmets but the kids helmets didn't fit (you can't get them that small) and he got annoyed when I said "so you don't love your children" well who's fault is it?  The parents have a choice but the kids don't!!  Who is going to come off worse and who will pay for it when they do?  This sort of thing doesn't happen in England or Australia or anywhere else in the civilised world.  There aren't too many motorbikes in Siberia!!  Why do they think tis is OK here, the locals do it from necessity and it is THEIR country, but when it hits the fan they (tourists) expect 1st world treatment and then go home without paying the bill

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with the turn over of regular paying patients i find this banner hard to believe

 

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2 minutes ago, trawler said:

In order to get a Schengen visa for my Thai wife I had to prove that we had a minimum of Euro 30000 health insurance coverage.This applies to all Thais applying for visa's to Europe.So whats wrong with requiring that tourists to Thailand have similar coverage??????

If you wish to live in a foreign country where you are ineligible for local health care then surely you have either health insurance or self cover.

This is common sense and stating that lots of expats here cannot get coverage is not a excuse for becoming a burden on a foreign country.

This nanny state mentality is becoming so pervasive that people are not thinking anything through for themselves.

The nanny state so commonly quoted here, is usually a country where one has paid taxes all of one's working life, and in return, a pension is paid and also medical care.  

 

Some of the bigger countries do not assist their poor or elderly.  What do you call them?

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14 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

A large hospital wrote off 2.7 million baht a year for nine years as a result of unpaid medical bills, that's a very very very small amount by anyone's standards..

yea but it makes it look like we are a problem. sure the profit margin is very good off foreigners. actually i suspect the double pricing become quadruple pricing when an insurance company is being billed.

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