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Special Report: Phuket hospitals facing huge losses from uninsured patients

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simoh1490    594
Just now, wombat said:

with the turn over of regular paying patients i find this banner hard to believe

 

The hospitals mentioned are governement hospitals not private ones hence most of their patients will be those holding 30 baht type governement insurance. The problem though is the extent of the ageing population in Thailand, just like the UK and the NHS they put the medical care system under strain.

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simoh1490    594
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1 minute ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

yea but it makes it look like we are a problem. sure the profit margin is very good off foreigners. actually i suspect the double pricing become quadruple pricing when an insurance company is being billed.

When you say "we", who do you mean, farangs or non-Thai's because there's a huge difference?

 

BTW once again the hospital mentioned is a governement hospital hence I doubt they see very many westerns carrying health insurance that can be billed, those patients will end up at Bangkok/Phuket Hospital.

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simoh1490    594
1 minute ago, upena said:

Every year and always only Phuket.

Not so, that Phuket hospital is one of 18 governement hospitals that are in the same position, most are in the North.

 

 

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RigPig    891
5 hours ago, smedly said:

actually all they have to do is charge every foreigner 500baht when they enter Thailand and the problem is solved .........................................oh wait they already do that

 

How about stop complaining and take care of visitors here, how many actually end up in hospital and how many end up in hospital because of the none existence of safety

 

 

Thailand needs to take it on the chin and realise that they have a responsibility and duty to take care of people that choose to come here for a holiday............what is 20% of GDP worth

I understand your reasoning but at what point do people take the responsibility for their own actions?  Do you think it is OK for people to come here and expect free medical care when Thailand hasn't the infrastructure of countries like England or Australis etc.  The first thing you have to show to get into Aus is that you will not be a burden on the free medical system.  NONE of these people have or will pay tax here!  My medical insurance costs me $500US a month, and that is my choice, and it doesn't cover me for pre existing conditions either...

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teddog    130
13 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

Sensible for tourists of course - but what would you suggest for the nearly 3 million resident expats who already live here, many of whom have lived here for ten years or more, are over the 70, have pre-existing conditions and are unable to buy health insurance in Thailand.

Likened to moi, back from India after op ,Thailand price? prob  400,000  to 600,000...India price 35,000   and far better experience

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smedly    15,189
20 minutes ago, RigPig said:

Fair comment, but when I see the Russian family up the road going 4 up on a scooter, the youngest probably about 2 or 3 years old, all wearing helmets but the kids helmets didn't fit (you can't get them that small) and he got annoyed when I said "so you don't love your children" well who's fault is it?  The parents have a choice but the kids don't!!  Who is going to come off worse and who will pay for it when they do?  This sort of thing doesn't happen in England or Australia or anywhere else in the civilised world.  There aren't too many motorbikes in Siberia!!  Why do they think tis is OK here, the locals do it from necessity and it is THEIR country, but when it hits the fan they (tourists) expect 1st world treatment and then go home without paying the bill

That is exactly part of the problem concerning road safety - they have no clue how to enforce laws so they don't bother, your Russian friends wouldn't be doing this if they knew for sure they would be getting stopped by police within 5mins ................................ 4 more potential injured hospitalised people avoided

 

But it isn't just road safety - it is a general safety to do with absolutely everything, like I said, Thailand wants all these people to come here and spend time here and spend money here and yet for decades they have made no attempt to improve the environment and standards..................because that costs money and organisation ................................. they have a cheek to complain about a few million baht when a few tourists get injured or sick out of the trillions they stuff in their greedy pockets every year and have done for decades, Thailand was 3rd world 40 years ago and is still 3rd world today...........what went wrong

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Ulic    3,275

I made use of the Patong hospital a few years back on one of my first trips to Thailand. The

service was excellent and cost was dirt cheap. The bill was only two thousand baht. I felt

a little guilty at being charged so little so I threw another thousand in the donation bow.

I have to agree with the earlier posters that the amount of the losses quoted are surprisingly

small.

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smedly    15,189
22 minutes ago, RigPig said:

I understand your reasoning but at what point do people take the responsibility for their own actions?  Do you think it is OK for people to come here and expect free medical care when Thailand hasn't the infrastructure of countries like England or Australis etc.  The first thing you have to show to get into Aus is that you will not be a burden on the free medical system.  NONE of these people have or will pay tax here!  My medical insurance costs me $500US a month, and that is my choice, and it doesn't cover me for pre existing conditions either...

no I don't, but I also expect Thailand to look after the people they invite to come here (read my above post)

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RigPig    891
7 minutes ago, smedly said:

That is exactly part of the problem concerning road safety - they have no clue how to enforce laws so they don't bother, your Russian friends wouldn't be doing this if they knew for sure they would be getting stopped by police within 5mins ................................ 4 more potential injured hospitalised people avoided

 

But it isn't just road safety - it is a general safety to do with absolutely everything, like I said, Thailand wants all these people to come here and spend time here and spend money here and yet for decades they have made no attempt to improve the environment and standards..................because that costs money and organisation ................................. they have a cheek to complain about a few million baht when a few tourists get injured or sick out of the trillions they stuff in their greedy pockets every year and have done for decades, Thailand was 3rd world 40 years ago and is still 3rd world today...........what went wrong

I don't disagree, but (and there is ALWAYS a but) I could answer your question but I would be enroling for "attitude adjustment" haha

Just make sure the terrorists. opps tourists have adequate medical insurance before entry, not complicated really.....

And how much of that sales tax do you really think gets into the hands of the government?  But that's another topic!

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MaxLee    3,709
17 hours ago, webfact said:

According to Methavee Maneesri of Vachira Phuket Hospital, when foreign patients are unable to pay their bills, the hospital has to absorb the expenses. Last year alone, the hospital wrote off 4.3 million baht of unpaid bills incurred by foreign patients. Over the last nine years, Vachira Phuket Hospital says it has written off more than 24 million baht in such losses. 

 

Aaaaah I get it,..... it's the patient's fault, as always. Blame the FALANG for getting killed, and get no moneeeeyyy......................... 

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Xonax    472

If a Thai want to travel to a western country, he or she will have to show medical insurance covering the whole period of the visit, when applying for a visa.  Why not just require tourists in Thailand to show medical insurance, before they can enter the country?  Forgetful tourists could be offered medical insurance at immigration at an increased price.

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