Jonathan Fairfield

British PM May calls for early election on June 8

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20 minutes ago, citybiker said:

 


Brexit is unaffected.

Source: European Council amongst one.

As a side note, the other parties have been caught on the hop & the 4th May local elections will be a good indicator.

Fair play to TM on this, her speech was strong, determined & gave clear clarity to the pathetic politicians wishing to consistently obstruct progress.

If I hear Tim Farron mention 'Hard Brexit' again I hope the LD's get equally crushed as Labour do, and JC will have a reasonable excuse to resign.

As for Sturgeon?


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I can't agree with your comment that brexit is unaffected.  If what the remainers say is true then the Tories will lose, after which all bets are off.  (Not that most remain voters will be willing to vote Corybn in). That is why it's a clever gambit by May.  

 

EDIT: Assuming that any party runs on a remain ticket and then wins of course, as unlikely as that may actually be.

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I can't agree with your comment that brexit is unaffected.  If what the remainers say is true then the Tories will lose, after which all bets are off.  (Not that most remain voters will be willing to vote Corybn in). That is why it's a clever gambit by May.  

It's taken nearly 9 months for the anti-Brexit mob (HoP etc) to finally accept the democratic result, not even JC is stupid enough to risk annoying the electorate.

What's more irritating is the standard of politicians who are hell bent in obstructing progress & jumping on the media bandwagon with the Hard Brexit theme.

IIRC only anti-Brexit & lefty media sources continue to spout the HB tripe.


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5 minutes ago, citybiker said:


It's taken nearly 9 months for the anti-Brexit mob (HoP etc) to finally accept the democratic result, not even JC is stupid enough to risk annoying the electorate.

What's more irritating is the standard of politicians who are hell bent in obstructing progress & jumping on the media bandwagon with the Hard Brexit theme.

IIRC only anti-Brexit & lefty media sources continue to spout the HB tripe.


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Of course you are right, unless you subscribe to the idea that most of the country are still anti.  If that are correct then all hell could break loose, but this is why she has been clever- I know a number of Tory voters who are anti Brexit, but there is no way ever they would vote labour.

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6 minutes ago, Roadman said:

Cometh the hour, cometh the woman...man. But she is showing she is head and shoulders the best world leader by a country mile and just the person for Brexit. Britain is fortunate she was sitting in waiting. 

I just hope she gets the backing she truly deserves, but I doubt it.

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If Brexit wasn't on the table the conservatives would have no chance. They used it to grab power at the last election and they will use it again to keep the power for another 5 years. In the mean time real issues like the NHS low taxes for all their mates will be ignored.


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2 minutes ago, Johnyo said:

If Brexit wasn't on the table the conservatives would have no chance. They used it to grab power at the last election and they will use it again to keep the power for another 5 years. In the mean time real issues like the NHS low taxes for all their mates will be ignored.


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You dont think brexit is important? Would you like Jeremy in charge of brexit negotiations? :shock1:

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I will make a prediction, Jeremy Corbyn will not lead the Labor party into this election campaign 

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Of course its important, I just think it will mask other issues where the conservatives have been weak for years.

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Just now, Johnyo said:

Of course its important, I just think it will mask other issues where the conservatives have been weak for years.

If the "conservatives have been weak for years" it really doesn't say a lot about the others does it?

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I think he will, he is a stubborn SOB. My prediction is that Labour wont not the opposition come June the 9th.

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If Brexit wasn't on the table the conservatives would have no chance. They used it to grab power at the last election and they will use it again to keep the power for another 5 years. In the mean time real issues like the NHS low taxes for all their mates will be ignored.


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And if Labour were in power the UK national debt would be significantly higher than the scarily high £1.7 trillion with they're borrowing policies.

Brexit is an opportunity, Labour didn't trust the electorate enough to be given the choice, if the EU/UK fails to achieve an amicable deal then we could be a low tax investment attractive country that prospers even more.

Meaning more investment in our services like the NHS, financial governance is what the NHS severely lacks & quite frankly I wouldn't trust Labour with a department brew fund let alone the country's budget.


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Cameron's referendum was a result of he Tory's losing votes to UKIP, otherwise there would no Brexit, I call that grabbing power. 

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3 minutes ago, Johnyo said:

I think he will, he is a stubborn SOB. My prediction is that Labour wont not the opposition come June the 9th.

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I think its a massive gamble by May. I'm struggling to see how she can increase her majority. Most of the labour seats are safe even though they are in a mess, they lost so many last election. The Lib Dems will grab a few more on the rebound and the fact they are anti Brexit and the SNP are on a pretty safe position.

I can only see the gap closing if anything. But this is politics after all......

 

 

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1 hour ago, citybiker said:

What's more irritating is the standard of politicians who are hell bent in obstructing progress & jumping on the media bandwagon with the Hard Brexit theme.

They have the most to loose!

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ID: 44   Posted (edited)

16 minutes ago, Johnyo said:

Cameron's referendum was a result of he Tory's losing votes to UKIP, otherwise there would no Brexit, I call that grabbing power. 

It was Labour who lost the most votes to UKIP not the Tories. And the referendum was a result of Tory infighting.   

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2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Well I hope it will shut up the whinging, unpatriotic europhiles that do not support the majority of the UK. It would seem you never did national service or served your country. What a shame. Even if the people do not vote for May at least she is a patriot, sadly lacking by many People and TV posters here. I am embarrassed for you.

Because of the EU, we don't need national service! Yet...

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Because of the EU, we don't need national service! Yet...


And hopefully post Brexit no U.K. Government will reintroduce it either.

With an UK unemployment rate at 4.7% unlikely to happen in the near future either.


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They have the most to loose!


IIRC Labour has lost one already on the snap GE news.

Alan Johnston, sorry no link.

At least the frenzy of political campaigning will be short & then revert to focus on ensuring the UK can see Brexit being delivered along with other domestic business.

I think Sturgeon is realising she's not dealing with a damp squib in TM, the other political parties being caught on the hop over this is mainly their 'own doing'.

Less party political infighting, bitching & bickering & focus on the what the electorate voted MP's for, representing them in a constructive, progressive and positive manner.


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8 hours ago, Mosha said:

Hopefully Blair will stick his oar in.

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How many general elections as leader of the Labour Party did he lose to the Tories?

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ID: 50   Posted (edited)

8 hours ago, Slip said:

Brexit referundum2?  Quite clever of her.

I do not think we could retract "Article 50", this is going to be about hard or soft brexit...

 

her story about other parties making things difficult does not ring true as she has a majority in the house, if anything it is dissenters in her own party that are the problem.

 

And the other reason she has called a snap election now is she could end up with 50 or so more MP's with so much disunity within the Labour party, UKIP now a none entity, Lib Dems still licking their wounds, and the SNP very unlikely to win any more seat, more likely to lose many.

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