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Britain will lose more from Brexit than EU, bloc's foreign policy chief says

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4 minutes ago, Aforek said:

How stupid, you are an English ( I suppose ) dreamer ; no, France will not be the next,  because a big majority of French want to stay in EU, you'll see it in two weeks

 

 yes, Britain will lose more than EU. Your hate of the non british world makes you blind , you have a very short sight ; because  you want to be out of EU, you think every body wants the same than you ?

 

Britain choosed to be alone, big mistake in 2017 ; EU choosed to be together even if there are things to change 

Tell us where you are from and I sure we can think of something to slate you with?

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4 hours ago, oxo1947 said:

They dont have to think to hard about it animalmagic ---you either do not live in the UK or are out of touch with what's going on there---re the immigration.....the Russians flood in , as many newspapers have pointed out--(& had their reporters do) its so easy to buy a passport from their friends in

Lithuania

Latvia

Estonia

Finland

Slovenia.

Czech Republic

 

& God help us when other EU members like

Romania

 

Croatia

Bulgaria

 

that are due very soon for Schengen area membership

 

 

Yes do enjoy  your freedoms..............most of the above countries who were part of the USSR will be there to share them with you.....hopefully we wont.....:coffee1:

 

Is this a joke? FYI, there is very little love towards Russia from Russia's bordering countries. Very, very little. We have been next to Russia for long enough to know not to trust the country when it's run by someone like power hungry Tzar Putin.

 

Btw Finland is celebrating it's 100 years independence this year.

 

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Always find it amusing listening to the self-aggrandising eurocrats and their meek sheeple.
This type of talk is designed to dissuade others from leaving this dying, undemocratic club. And if it were true, who cares about the monetary value, at least the 'Equal' (to whom? lol) member had the guts to call it a day.

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4 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Always find it amusing listening to the self-aggrandising eurocrats and their meek sheeple.
This type of talk is designed to dissuade others from leaving this dying, undemocratic club. And if it were true, who cares about the monetary value, at least the 'Equal' (to whom? lol) member had the guts to call it a day.

How difficult it is to understand that vast majority of us Europeans are happy with EU?

 

Brexit is a divorce. If UK was unhappy with EU, then by all means: go, fly to your new future. There is no reason to hang in broken relationship.

 

Now when the brexit is happening, there will be negotiations. Our 500M people's economy will have upper hand against UK's 70M. After all, that is one reason we have EU in the first place - we have much more negotiation power than any single country would have alone.

 

Sail away. 1 year 11 months.

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20 minutes ago, oilinki said:

Is this a joke? FYI, there is very little love towards Russia from Russia's bordering countries. Very, very little.

You really are a little naive  oinlinki aren't you. When did lots of money have anything to do with who you like 70 years ago--- Google passports sold --you dont even have to go to the dark web (although there is plenty more being offered there )

EU passport: Agencies with links to Russian mafia offer back-door route to millions--http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2854525/Not-Romanian-No-problem-s-EU-passport-Agencies-links-Russian-mafia-offer-door-route-millions.html

 

Yes I do know a little of the history of Finland---you fought alongside or with great support from the Nazis against Russia from 1941--1944 then change sides.....I am sure you feel well at home in Thailand.

The Finland Continuation War of 1941–1944 (with considerable support from Nazi Germany )resulting in a swift invasion of neighboring areas of the Soviet Union), eventually leading to the loss of Finland's only ice-free winter harbour Petsamo. The Continuation War was, in accordance with the armistice conditions, immediately followed by the Lapland War of 1944–1945, when Finland fought the Germans --Wikipedia

 

 

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20 hours ago, Grouse said:

Federica is saying it as it is

 

She's saying it as it suits her agenda and to keep her job,

 

Most of the Italian politicians want to take Italy out of the Euro Zone, and a significant number want to leave the EU.

 

She has to sing the EU song and repeat the EU is great mantra. 

 

Italy could well be the surprise that brings the house of cards tumbling.

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1 hour ago, oilinki said:

How difficult it is to understand that vast majority of us Europeans are happy with EU?

 

Brexit is a divorce. If UK was unhappy with EU, then by all means: go, fly to your new future. There is no reason to hang in broken relationship.

 

Now when the brexit is happening, there will be negotiations. Our 500M people's economy will have upper hand against UK's 70M. After all, that is one reason we have EU in the first place - we have much more negotiation power than any single country would have alone.

 

Sail away. 1 year 11 months.

 

How do you know the vast majority of Europeans are happy with the EU? Btw, not all Europeans live in European countries that are in the EU.

 

The citizens of the EU have never been given the chance to express their desire on the push by certain politicians towards ever greater integration, unification and federalism. The French Foreign Minister, brave man, suggested they should do so by referendum after Brexit. He was quickly silenced. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, daveAustin said:

Always find it amusing listening to the self-aggrandising eurocrats and their meek sheeple.
This type of talk is designed to dissuade others from leaving this dying, undemocratic club. And if it were true, who cares about the monetary value, at least the 'Equal' (to whom? lol) member had the guts to call it a day.

 

Of course. They can't have a federalist United States of Europe without member states. She must be worried too that Italy has strong political forces that want out the Euro and the EU.

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Switzerland and Norway seem to manage OK outside the EU. An unelected nonentity jetting half way round the world first class is one good reason to be out rather than in. Brexit is the beginning of the end for the EU; others will surely follow.

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1 hour ago, oilinki said:

How difficult it is to understand that vast majority of us Europeans are happy with EU?

 

Brexit is a divorce. If UK was unhappy with EU, then by all means: go, fly to your new future. There is no reason to hang in broken relationship.

 

Now when the brexit is happening, there will be negotiations. Our 500M people's economy will have upper hand against UK's 70M. After all, that is one reason we have EU in the first place - we have much more negotiation power than any single country would have alone.

 

Sail away. 1 year 11 months.

500m collectively, not singularly. Tell that to Ireland, who will lose its largest export destination. The Irish government is already shouting about this.

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What ever dribble they come up with about what we will lose. They forget the biggest thing we gain is self respect .

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Hey folks we live in a BS world what do you expect her to say. Throw her hands up in the air and say all is lost. We have all on TV been around the block a few times over the generations and know how this BS plays out. Its all a game a charade trying to scare people fear mongering its how they govern today. That phrase "truth is blowing on the wind" is long gone. Truth is such a rare thing it shocks me when I come in contact with it today. We live in a manure spreader world.  

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15 hours ago, englishinsiam said:

The anti UK stuff here lol.

We will be just fine out of the EU. France will be next then the Eu will crumble and the nation's will all get their sovereignty back.
 

 Which is the crux on the entire argument. To a large extent the EU forced the hand of the British over one single issue... sovereignty. All this supposed xenophobic nonsense pilled onto the backs of UK people is just that, nonsense. The EU will likely disintegrate after the UK leaves but by that I mean in its present form. I voted Brexit because I'm unwilling to be told what to do by a bunch of unelected people whole sole purpose is to look busy and pass legislation for no rational reason in an effort to look, as said, busy. I'm sick of these pro EU stalwarts who said nothing when the Lisbon Treaty was foistered on people yet bitch when down the line people complain.

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ID: 44   Posted (edited)

23 minutes ago, delh said:

Le Pen stands a great chance in the upcoming presidential election.

She has a few warts but maybe not as many as some other candidates. I just hope she is not another "princess" that turns into a frog. The world now is full of jumping political toads and frogs and not one handsum prince among them .

Edited by elgordo38
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2 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Everyone has an opinion on Brexit and it's effect on both the UK and the EU. The truth is that we don't know how much damage is going to be inflicted on both sides but there will be lot's of "statistics" that each side will be quoting to make their case.  The negotiations haven't started yet and we are still at the posturing stage.  There will be a lot of moving of goalposts as the months go on.  For example May has now decided to remove foreign students studying in Britain from the immigrant list to ease the pressure on getting those figures down.  That will give her a 175,000 head start.  Much more to come I am sure.

Politicians have a way of whittling away at things. I just look back some 20 years at my retirement and my retirement check to affirm that. 

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ID: 47   Posted (edited)

20 minutes ago, notmyself said:

We will be just fine out of the EU. France will be next then the Eu will crumble and the nation's will all get their sovereignty back.

Last one out turn out the lights. Going back to square one will be costly and painful. I can still remember my gall bladder operation. 

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Well the clock is ticking with the French election looming closer.  The latest attack in Paris certainly bolsters the far rights argument and may affect the voting.  If France does leave the EU then that would be the death of it.  Hopefully then a new trading group could rise from the ashes and that would be a good thing.  However it would involve a fair amount of blood on the carpet in the meantime and quite a bit of finger pointing and blame games.  All this will take years and the way the world is changing at the moment everything is uncertain.

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They're still upset about the lost monthly money which the Germans will have to pay and the impending departure of France from the EU tyranny 

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