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Pilot forced to drop animal due to windy weather: Ministry

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I believe the original version; bear was in chopper sedated and partially covered by net, regained consciousness earlier than hoped, all hell broke loose, bear went into free fall. (sad about the bear, but the pilot's intercom must make some hilarious listening)

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Armed forces all the world over are still doing studies into the instabilities introduced due to slung loads, some still ongoing into the reasons for Australian British and American helicopter pilots having to drop loads instead of crashing.

But don't let facts get in the way of Thai bashing from your early morning bar stools.

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Dropped his phone, then lost altitude then had to drop the bear to recover if the truth be known. How many professional Helicopter pilots know the weather conditions way before they go up. Another BS coverup for sure at the cost of a rare animal species. 

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Wind shear was not the issue here. The pilot, who I can only imagine had very limited experience slinging, used a lanyard that was far to short and exceeded the aircrafts speed limitations (VNE) while carrying an underslung load. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, colinneil said:

Have the people responsible for this fiasco never heard of risk assessment.

Before i retired every job i did could not be carried out without a risk assessment being done.

Many times i would think what nonsense, but when you see fiascos like this 1 you can understand the need.

I too had to do risk assessments. The reason is so the company will.not be responsible..you are. It's all lawyer stuff.

 

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20 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

...but the weather conditions were bad that day with gusty winds...

 

They had to do it that day because the bear had promised his wife he'd be home for dinner.:coffee1:

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5 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Inept, incompetent officials who couldn't plan their way out of a wet paper bag are the cause. 

Nor come up with a respectable and  half believable excuse. 

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1 hour ago, elgordo38 said:

I agree and it bears investigation. Bears and bulls and the Dow jumped 200 points last night. Time to get back in the market its a sign. 

lottery numbers would be more useful. 

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7 hours ago, overherebc said:

A load slung under a chopper can cause all sorts of stability problems for the pilot. A sudden wind change causing the pilot to make a correction that can swing the load causing another balance problem. Approaching a cliff with the wind coming off the cliff can mean the helicopter to be affected by downward or sideways winds again causing the slung load to swing. Think about a sudden side wind hitting a caravan towed behind your car, massive swinging and the caravan takes control of the car, it's a similar effect. In a chopper the only option is drop the load.

 

6 hours ago, Holmsedale25 said:

I don't know, you tell me.

 

The case in question was a short flight into the hills to release the bear. Prior planning and thought should have highlighted all possible risks. If wind shear was one of them then this should have been taken into consideration and other means of transporting the bear assessed.

Umh, shouldn't the pilot have been aware that he was going to be flying near cliffs, and of the wind effects involved?

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Wind shear was not the issue here. The pilot, who I can only imagine had very limited experience slinging, used a lanyard that was far to short and exceeded the aircrafts speed limitations (VNE) while carrying an underslung load. 
 
 


What was the length of the lanyard he used? What should it have been?

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18 minutes ago, SABloke said:

 


What was the length of the lanyard he used? What should it have been?

 

At the moment they are still doing studies into that all over with various countries armed forces. The problem has so many variables they might take a long time to come up with a 100% formula to address the problem. It happens more often than people are aware of.

This one is getting a lot of attention because it's a bear. If it had been 10 sacks of rice it would be a different story or a non story.

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6 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Inept, incompetent officials who couldn't plan their way out of a wet paper bag are the cause. 

With scissors in their hands

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At the moment they are still doing studies into that all over with various countries armed forces. The problem has so many variables they might take a long time to come up with a 100% formula to address the problem. It happens more often than people are aware of.
This one is getting a lot of attention because it's a bear. If it had been 10 sacks of rice it would be a different story or a non story.


I understand this. My comment was a sarcastic one, because Wingman categorically stated that the lanyard was too short: to make such a statement one should have the 'facts'. He clearly doesn't in this case and is just making assumptions wrapped in the guise of an "expert opinion" ;)
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19 minutes ago, elgordo38 said:

Market has better odds all the stocks keep going up. Asia follows the Dow Europe follows Asia its an upward spiral. Investors are winners. Companies fudge their quarterly profits with the governments blessing, they borrow our savings at next to nothing, Large corporations have large algorithym programs that make them winners 99.9% of the time all with the governments blessing how can we loose.!!!!

The bear was the loser in this one.

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