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Video: weaving truck case prompts highway chief to consult with land department about dash-cams

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9 hours ago, webfact said:

Many want to see such footage used for prosecutions that go beyond the provisions of the highway code.

Many would settle for seeing prosecutions, period. Aided, of course, by the option, and application, of realistic penalties.

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Highway chief needs to watch the video from the beginning and put his glasses on.For starters the dumb copper was hugging the Fast lane so the truck had to Undercut overtaken,for the rest there isn't much of a problem truck weaves to other lane than he weaves back to overtake a car, than has a bit of a wiggle,Could be just moving his butt on his seat to get more comfortable.

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6 hours ago, todlad said:

I can only speak to what I know.

 

Where I come from, you can have your own CCTV set up attached to your own property for your own safety and peace of mind.

 

However, if your CCTV overlooks any other property, eg a main road or next door's garden, any CCTV evidence will be void.

 

This means that if someone steals a car in front of your property but not from your property, even though you can see exactly who did it, the police would need other evidence to trap the thief because your CCTV footage would be inadmissible.

 

I believe that is the state of UK law but of course if you are able to update that I would be happy to read the latest position.

I have cctv at the front of my house in the UK and after a drunken incident a few years ago where a car parked in the street was totally wrecked and items stolen from within I had a visit from the police who saw my camera and asked if I had any footage of the incident. As it happened I had recorded the event and police made a copy of my cctv footage which was used in court to convict two men.

A friend who has a shop with internal and external cctv is always being asked for cctv footage by police following incidents in the area of his shop.

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10 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said:

Interesting to note that the "leading Region 5 policeman in his private car" using the dash cam fails on to keep left after overtaking manouvers for protracted periods. 

Whilst not diminishing the actions of the truck driver, if one of them end up being charged it should be both of them.

 

But that will never happen, anyway, moving on.

The policeman was not on duty so he cannot catch the driver what a joke.

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It seems ok to accept a speed camera still to prosecute and, as a video is just a series of stills, it surely must be just as acceptable

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I think the test if admissibility is whether the video runs to the root of the act in breach of the law rather than some secondary matter. So the video would not be admissible to prove breach of speed limit but if the circumstances were evident might be admissible to prove reckless driving. The point of law is how relevant and accurate the video might be to support a prosecution to a particular clause of law. This particular video seems not really seem sufficiently persuasive but others I have seen certainly are. Of course it is only one part of the evidence. That said the whole justice system here is totally hit and miss and subject to gross manipulation so really it would be anyone's guess.

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13 hours ago, garywim said:

The thing I noticed the most was no one uses their indicators in Thailand. What the "L " is wrong with them.

My pet peeve,  indicators .

"no one uses their indicators in Thailand."

Wrong! Many motorcyclists use their indicators, but it's anybody's guess as to which way they are going to go! They frequently forget to cancel the indicator once they have turned the corner, and drive on obliviously for miles with the indicator going and no intention of turning. 

But I do agree partly with your "pet peeve" as in the scenario where you are waiting at a junction to pull out on to the main road, and a slow moving  motorcyclist approaching from your right does not indicate, but turns left into your side road with no indicator going - now THAT is annoying!

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I had a one of those double-decker tour buses  traveling south on highway 11 almost go sideways after passing me.  Caught it on the dash cam.  And I was thinking, "why don't the cops accept these videos and then charge these wackos for negligent and dangerous driving?"  The bus footage I had was much more exciting than that truck.  

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Nothing in this video is unusual. I witness this driving and much worse every single day here in Korat. Totally me first , me first.

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16 hours ago, garywim said:

The thing I noticed the most was no one uses their indicators in Thailand. What the "L " is wrong with them.

My pet peeve,  indicators .

And of those that do turn on their indicators...at least 30%+ have yet to learn that they

can also be turned off....!

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On 4/21/2017 at 4:04 AM, webfact said:

 

He said there would not be much point in having it if it could not be used to nail negligent drivers.

 

The footage of the Chiang Mai truck shocked many people - not least those in the car doing the filming.

 

Many want to see such footage used for prosecutions that go beyond the provisions of the highway code.

 

Is there an implication in the police spokesman's words that RTP would like to encourage road-users to 'dob in' other drivers they believe are driving recklessly? There aren't enough police already to patrol public roadways? This starts to look more like police state tactics thany genuine attempt to make roads safer. If Police want safer public roads they need to get fair dinkum, show the general public that they genuinely care for the welll-being of ordinary citizens and actually carry out btheir duties properly, rather than setting up roadblocks t oearn pocket money; arrest the real crims rather than milk cowed citizens. People would be willing to help the police if they believed the RTP was genuinely committed to their civic responsibilities.  I'd like to know if this spokesman believes dashcam footage would have made any differernce to the police's response and actions subsequent to the criminal activities of the Red Bull heir. Would police dealings with local big men accused of raping and procuring a 14-year-old girl reflected community outrage rather than protecting the 'big man' and putting the girl's mother in fear of her life?

The police have a long, tricky trail ahead if they want to win back the trust, respect and co-operation of the general public. I keep dashcams in my car to help protect me from police skullduggery as much as.drunken idiots in charge of vehicles.

 

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On 4/21/2017 at 10:05 PM, connda said:

I had a one of those double-decker tour buses  traveling south on highway 11 almost go sideways after passing me.  Caught it on the dash cam.  And I was thinking, "why don't the cops accept these videos and then charge these wackos for negligent and dangerous driving?"  The bus footage I had was much more exciting than that truck.  

Even if the police saw it the would laugh and forget about it

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On 4/21/2017 at 11:10 PM, ableguy said:

Nothing in this video is unusual. I witness this driving and much worse every single day here in Korat. Totally me first , me first.

You are so right Me me me Yesterday i was doing a right hand U turn Cars came up on the outside of me They were not even in the turning lane They came off the lane that was meant for flow through traffic Taxi drivers are the worst So i gave them some with my car horn My Thai wife got upset and said why did you do that? I said because they are in the wrong She said you dont understand Thai driving I replied what am i suppose to about Thai driving? Not knowthe rules like they  do? They know they are in the wrong but its Me Me Me and where are the cops lol NOWHERE TO BE SEEN  truly i have nevr seen so many bad drivers in my life and they are getting away with it

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