wolf2017

Thailand visa VOID / Rejected tourist visa 60 days

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My nationality is Indian. Applied for Thailand tourist visa ( 60 days)  for the first time in April 2017. Got back my passport, with a void stamp . I have a close friend in Thailand, she is Thai national. Using her reference had submitted all required documents - My travel agent in Jabalpur submitted the following documents to delhi office who then submitted to Royal thai embassy in delhi.  The story below takes places in a span of 7-10 days.
( to give you a clear picture, i had not presented any hotel bookings and itinerary, since i would be residing with my friend below , for which the proof of address was attached)
1) Her Passport copy with signature.
2) Her proof of address
3) Her employment certificate ( she has been working in the same company 10 years. has a a great track record)
4) My passport 
5) My desired passport photographs 
6) My  employment certificate
7) My bank statement ( initially submitted 3 months statement, later was asked to submit 6 months statement. I used this bank account to do very small amount transactions, like sometimes 1000 rs or sometimes go upto 20,000 rs. just maintained the minimum balance of 1500 rs every month, that the bank requires.. Finally presented a closing balance of 200,000 INR ( indian rupees)  The thai requirement of closing balance was only 40,000 Indian rupees. I presented 160,000 indian rupees extra.
8) My income tax returns ( This again , was asked to submit later on by the agent , which was the requirement of  the thai embassy at that moment. I  work privately from home, so dont make much money. Hence, dont pay income tax, make less than 2,40,000 rs annually.
9) My return ticket to thailand.( clearly under the 60 days duration. had booked return for 55 days )
10) Letter of invitation duly signed and my relation with invitee, a close friend.

The application was submitted after songkran festival ( big festival of Thais 13 apr- 16 april. ) 
on 17th april the agent at delhi submitted all documents to Royal thai embassy . and on 20th morning i got the news - MY THAI VISA IS VOID !!!!.

This is terrible..
i just want to know what you guys think about all this ?
am i the victim of racism ? 
If all my documentation is authentic and duly submitted whatever the thai embassy asked for , what influenced their minds to VOID MY THAI TOURIST VISA.
what is their psyche here? what were they thinking ? why did they reject my 60 day thai tourist visa?
note ---- i wasnt interested in the 15 days visa on arrival. since 15 days is too little to trip and cover most places in Thialand . i didnt want rush and wind up my trip early.. so i opted for 60 days visa.

( is this racism , or is the embassy biased about something ? why are so many complaints rising and indian forums coming up, with the same issue of being denied thai tourist visa , deeming our visa as VOID )..

hope someone here has the RIGHT answer to my question.

I would not take any chances of trying for a thailand tourist visa again. read some place , some unlucky ones ,  got 2 voids stamps.... how stained !!!

 

IS THE  INDIAN TRAVEL AGENT TO BLAME ?  A LAPSE ON THEIR PART ? OR IS IT JUST A  WICKED GAME OF THE ROYAL THAI EMBASSY FOR DENYING INDIANS TOURIST VISAS  ?

 

THE WORST PART IS  ---- THE ROYAL THAI EMBASSY AT DELHI DOES NOT GIVE ANY REASON FOR REJECTION ... LEAVES US WONDERING , WHERE DID WE GO WRONG ??????

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1 minute ago, BritTim said:

Your experience is most unfortunate. There have been reports of others from India having problems getting Thai tourist visas, and even in isolated cases experiencing problems entering when a visa has been granted. I really do not know why those from India seem to experience such issues. I guess racism could be a contributing factor. I think, also, that many from India carry on business in Thailand without appropriate company registration and work permits. Perhaps, that also makes immigration strict on Indian nationals. Anyway, you have my sympathy. Hopefully, someone will be able to suggest a way for you to overcome this.

Thank You Sir for your Honest and very transparent answer..  You lighten my worry.  Yes you are absolutely correct. I have heard of many Indians going to thailand with the intention of only a tour, and end up sticking on , working there and extending stays, and hooking up with thai women for purpose of marriage and visa. this could be the real reason too..Thanks again.

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ID: 4   Posted (edited)

You should have tried yourself....seems like you were fully cooperative.  Usually, they will tell you shat you are lacking before they accept your application.  Even in the US, people will try and use the "friendliest" consulate possible.  On a bad day, no one gets anything.  A lot of terrorists try and pass themselves off as Indian....there is also a big forged passport market in India and elsewhere.  

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I wonder what is this void stamp. A visa not issued cannot be void. What else is on this stamp?


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1 minute ago, SicTransit said:

I wonder what is this void stamp. A visa not issued cannot be void. What else is on this stamp?


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Hi Void on a visa granted simply means Not valid. May be some good soul at the embassy passed the visa , and the last officer out of sheer disregard or a personal hate attack,  stamped the VOID seal on it. please come back to this forum in 2 days. I will get my passport back . will attach the void seal. Thanks.

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Yes, a few bad apples.....you seem to understand.  Even KL and Penang can be night and day.  Always search Google for info on consulates...and just one or two staff changes can ruin it all.

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24 minutes ago, SicTransit said:

I wonder what is this void stamp. A visa not issued cannot be void. What else is on this stamp?

The lower-level person at the consulate/embassy put the visa in his passport.  A supervisor voided it.  Others have had this experience at other consulates.  I recall someone trying to get a 4th TR visa in the same passport from Cambodia had this happen (non-Cambodians only get 3 there max per-passport).

 

48 minutes ago, KhonKaenKowboy said:

You should have tried yourself....seems like you were fully cooperative.  Usually, they will tell you shat you are lacking before they accept your application.  Even in the US, people will try and use the "friendliest" consulate possible.  On a bad day, no one gets anything.  ...

I thought folks in India had to use a "Visa Service" called "VFS Global" that handles all Thai visas for the country?  Can he apply directly, instead?

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I suspect they think you lack the funds to stay for an extended period of time and might work while you're here, they're very paranoid about foreigners working at the moment.

 

I've heard about some crazy first hand incidents around these parts about immigration sniffing around businesses and instant 'fines' levied against people for minor infringements, one even when they've got a work permit but momentarily give someone else a hand in a different job title.

 

Based on this kind of incident it suggests that they are actually sitting waiting outside business premises watching for someone to make a small mistake slightly outside of their job description, then they pounce.

 

 

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In India you cannot apply directly with the embassy or one of the consulates. It goes through a contracted visa application center  (VFS is one of the 2). They accept the application, collect the fee and send it to the embassy or consulate for approval. If not approved they do the visa sticker and stamp it void as a record of the application being processed. There have been many reports of this happening. I suspect many are accepted by the visa centers that don't meet the requirements when they are sent the embassy or consulate.

All that can be done is to try again by applying and paying the fee.

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14 hours ago, wolf2017 said:

My bank statement ( initially submitted 3 months statement, later was asked to submit 6 months statement. I used this bank account to do very small amount transactions, like sometimes 1000 rs or sometimes go upto 20,000 rs. just maintained the minimum balance of 1500 rs every month, that the bank requires.. Finally presented a closing balance of 200,000 INR ( indian rupees)  The thai requirement of closing balance was only 40,000 Indian rupees. I presented 160,000 indian rupees extra.

I think therein lies the reason of refusal.

Bank statements averaging just above the minimum the bank requires, 1,500 rupees = 797 baht.

 

Although you supplied further evidence of 200,000 rupees, they were suspicious of how you obtained the extra funds, especially when supplying a tax return showing an annual income of only 240,000 rupees.

Perhaps working from home you only deposit the minimum required to avoid tax, the remainder in cash.

That unfortunately works against you when apply for Visas.

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