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Somtam slowly killing many Thais, cancer center says

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2 hours ago, xyznot said:

Report away.  You wrote, "anti-parasite drugs used that also contribute to the destruction of their livers" and that is not true.  You are wrong and at fault and should not post untrue statements with no basis in fact.  Starting rumors that might prevent people from taking legitimate prescription medications for parasites in a country where that is still a problem is dangerous and your post should have been removed and you reprimanded for distributing harmful health information.   

Dear me. You are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think that a/ most people in Isaan with liver disease are taking "legitimate prescription medications" and b/ those same people would be reading this this Forum and would form an opinion that prevented them from getting correct and safe treatment as a result of what they read here. When was the last time you saw an Isaan sao baan drinking lao khao and tucking into a large plate of dtam makhung lao with extra lashings of raw pla daek while reading Thaivisa and thinking "Hhhmmmm, I better not take any of that out-of-date triclabendazole my cousin who raises cattle gave me, cos this farang says it might screw up my rotten liver even more than it already is"? Get real dude!  :annoyed:

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On 5.5.2017 at 12:45 PM, overherebc said:

I've heard that many times and it's something I tend to agree with. As said before it used to be pepper corns that were used to make things hot and spicy. When chilli was brought to Asia from the West Indies it took over from pepper probably because it did a better job of killing the crap taste of local cheap peasant food at the time.

In large areas of the world they use garlic instead...

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On 5/5/2017 at 2:55 AM, Briggsy said:

The article is very poorly written.

 

There appear to be 2 unrelated points.

 

The first is the incidence of cases of liver cancer caused by long term liver fluke infection. This infection is caused by the eating of uncooked fish.

 

The second is the incidence of cervical cancer.

 

The headline is related to the first point only. I can see no link between som tam and cervical cancer. Even then the headline is significantly misleading. The author could have pointed to the more accurate reasons e.g.

 

Failure to pasteurise or cook fish/pla ra

Failure to detect and cure long term liver fluke infections

Failure to have a systemic public health policy in liver fluke areas

 

are slowly killing many Thais.

 

I eat som tam. I do not use pla ra. Most vendors use the pasteurised stuff. I suspect the infections stem from homemade fermented fish. Pla ra is used in many dishes.

 I have only read the first two pages in this tread so don't know about others but the above reply is spot on :clap2:

I also eat Som Tom all the time, never use pla ra , dont like the taste of it. Som Tom in itself is very healthy IMO

I agree poorly written article.

 

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This is a horribly

On 5/5/2017 at 1:01 PM, overherebc said:

Not a ' my black cat ' story but I know a Kiwi 'hero' who did similar here and ended up in Bumrungrad for a night. Eating raw chillies and calling everyone else wimps.

Very quiet about it afterwards.

I have met a few older Thai people in the north east who were always complaining of stomach and gut problems after what I call years of chilli abuse.

It really can't be good for you.

Chilli has only been here for a couple of hundred years I think

, ( anyone know the dates) brought originally from West Indies and replaced pepper which I like, especially Kampot pepper


I can and do eat Thai chilli's all the time. No idea what the drama is here. Straight up raw as well, with cabbage, ginger and issan sausage.

 

Horribly written article.

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Yeah, yeah! And what to do with this?

Whwn I was 9-10 years old, I heard a radio program telling that potato gives you cancer. Scared to death, my mother asked me why I did not eat potato for 1 week up. :cheesy:

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7 hours ago, overherebc said:

Considering I've been travelling the world since I was 19 and that was a long time ago there's a good chance your wrong on that one, and I don't mean on holidays but working and living in many countries.

Settle petal and try to take on board that different people like different things and different people dislike different things in the way of food. In the normal world it's called choice.

The fact that you 'worked in the food industry in many countries' doesn't give you the right to try and put down or insult anyone.

 

You wrote the following comments.  "Thai food. I don't like the look, texture and taste of most of it.

street food in Thailand and lots of people do but picture the large quantities of doggie doo-doo that dry up and get blown around as doo-doo dust with all the other stuff in large cities here"

 

Don't you think your comments deserve a response especially on a Thai forum where posting overly negative comments directed towards Thailand is against forum rules. 

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6 hours ago, plachon said:

Dear me. You are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think that a/ most people in Isaan with liver disease are taking "legitimate prescription medications" and b/ those same people would be reading this this Forum and would form an opinion that prevented them from getting correct and safe treatment as a result of what they read here. When was the last time you saw an Isaan sao baan drinking lao khao and tucking into a large plate of dtam makhung lao with extra lashings of raw pla daek while reading Thaivisa and thinking "Hhhmmmm, I better not take any of that out-of-date triclabendazole my cousin who raises cattle gave me, cos this farang says it might screw up my rotten liver even more than it already is"? Get real dude!  :annoyed:

OK, real is, you posted, "anti-parasite drugs used that also contribute to the destruction of their livers" and that is not true.  That is all I wanted to say.  Stop posting misinformation that has no basis if fact.

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so now it's somtam ......

so i ad that to the list already ... meat, chocolate, coffee, fish, peanut butter, bread, biscuits,...  :shock1:

geeeeze .... can I eat anything  ??

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8 minutes ago, steven100 said:

so now it's somtam ......

so i ad that to the list already ... meat, chocolate, coffee, fish, peanut butter, bread, biscuits,...  :shock1:

geeeeze .... can I eat anything  ??

In time you'll eat your words concerning the PTB!

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20 minutes ago, steven100 said:

so now it's somtam ......

so i ad that to the list already ... meat, chocolate, coffee, fish, peanut butter, bread, biscuits,...  :shock1:

geeeeze .... can I eat anything  ??

Vegemite!

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On 2/9/2018 at 2:14 PM, elgenon said:

I got mild food poisoning from samtom. Very be careful!!! Yikes!

What's your point?

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Ten years ago, I meet a Thai, male Doctor, heart specialist. I asked him what is in his opinion, a comman complaint with his patients, he told me, THE STOMACH! HIs expressed that too many consumed chillies were the probable cause of the systems, and condition, and was very direct in his response.

 

Being from Italian descent, I've known for years that chillies are very bad for a person if consumed too much and too often. I keep warning people about their intake of chillies , which falls on deaf ears!

 

If I'm not mistaken, as like rubber trees, chillies are not indigenous to Thailand. Both where introduced by foreigners.

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9 minutes ago, Sonhia said:

Ten years ago, I meet a Thai, male Doctor, heart specialist. I asked him what is in his opinion, a comman complaint with his patients, he told me, THE STOMACH! HIs expressed that too many consumed chillies were the probable cause of the systems, and condition, and was very direct in his response.

 

Being from Italian descent, I've known for years that chillies are very bad for a person if consumed too much and too often. I keep warning people about their intake of chillies , which falls on deaf ears!

 

If I'm not mistaken, as like rubber trees, chillies are not indigenous to Thailand. Both where introduced by foreigners.

Same as India. I always thought Portuguese brought them from the West Indies.

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