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Bangkok motorcyclists beware! - no license and cops will take your bike!

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On 5/12/2017 at 10:06 AM, darksidedog said:

At long last a move to stop some of the madness on the roads. It would be best if they held on to the bike until the person came to collect it, WITH a driving license.

I also hope they don't just restrict this to just Bangkok, but do it nationwide. Folks will get the message quite quickly.

You know, just the odd police patrol would sort out many problems. Many of the worst offenders never go out to the main police money-pots and thus never get caught.

 

The only time you see police out - generally 2up on 150cc bikes with bullet proof vests and side-arms. Strangely looking similar to protection racketeers, visiting business premises for reasons not widely understood.

 

They'll ride straight past any offences being committed. Police work is not in their job description. This move has nothing to do with actually stopping the madness.

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ID: 42   Posted

On 5/12/2017 at 11:32 AM, Sure said:

Nevermind motorcyclists, what about car drivers driving illegally?

Cars cannot drive illegally, they obviously are of a higher class with a more respectable disposable income than motorcyclists. It would be rude to cause them to lose face by stopping them and suggesting that they may not be wholly better class of people. I remember one report about a policeman who was stopped by police, they were punished for not knowing better. They suggested he should take a breath test... Big no-no.

 

Just ONE patrol car cruising up and down Pattaya's Beach road... stop people for a quick breath test as they pull away... might give people pause for thought as they drive up, park, drink 6-7 gottles of gear and then drive away.

 

On 5/12/2017 at 1:11 PM, Bangkok Barry said:

The 'crackdown' will last until the middle of next week and then be forgotten. Like every other 'crackdown'.

Like every other part of their education and training. Whatever they 'memorise' in school has only to be retained for a week; after the 'test' it's best forgotten so that one may focus on the next requirement.

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On 5/12/2017 at 9:45 AM, webfact said:

He said that statistics gathered at Songkran showed that 30-40% of motorcyclists involved in accidents had no license or insurance.

 

Yes this was enough statistically to get you into the flavor of the day category. 

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ID: 44   Posted

On 5/12/2017 at 10:06 AM, darksidedog said:

At long last a move to stop some of the madness on the roads. It would be best if they held on to the bike until the person came to collect it, WITH a driving license.

I also hope they don't just restrict this to just Bangkok, but do it nationwide. Folks will get the message quite quickly.

Great idea but baby steps. 

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Great idea but baby steps. 

You think it is a great idea to give please a ticket to go it's dumping thousands of bikes, but not to bother with cars? Why is the differentiation? Do you want to support racism?

Surely if they have power to seize the vehicle for an unlicensed driver, it should not be specified what the vehicle is.

To accept such a measure is to support absolute and unreasonable rule...




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ID: 46   Posted (edited)

45 minutes ago, ben2talk said:


You think it is a great idea to give please a ticket to go it's dumping thousands of bikes, but not to bother with cars? Why is the differentiation? Do you want to support racism?

Surely if they have power to seize the vehicle for an unlicensed driver, it should not be specified what the vehicle is.

To accept such a measure is to support absolute and unreasonable rule...




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OMG seriously??.   You know anything about Thailand a military coup is the boss you have any idea?

They can do anything they want.  Deal with it!!

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ID: 47   Posted

OMG seriously??.   You know anything about Thailand a military coup is the boss you have any idea?
They can do anything they want.  Deal with it!!

I have every idea, that doesn't make this a good idea, it makes it a further blatant statement of fascist power.


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ID: 48   Posted (edited)

44 minutes ago, ben2talk said:


I have every idea, that doesn't make this a good idea, it makes it a further blatant statement of fascist power.


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Sure you are probably right but you have no control over this.  It is a coup boss deal with it or move on..

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ID: 49   Posted

Sure you are probably right but you have no control over this.  It is a coup boss deal with it or move on..

You have no control over me, deal with that and stop telling me to deal with anything or move on!

I never suggested we have power in this matter.


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3 hours ago, ben2talk said:


You think it is a great idea to give please a ticket to go it's dumping thousands of bikes, but not to bother with cars? Why is the differentiation? Do you want to support racism?

Surely if they have power to seize the vehicle for an unlicensed driver, it should not be specified what the vehicle is.

To accept such a measure is to support absolute and unreasonable rule...




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Sorry need a translator on this one. 

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ID: 51   Posted

Sorry need a translator on this one. 

Wow, yes- phone went crazy. Just seems crazy police will have power to take bikes but not BMW's or Fortuners... As stated before, no fairness implied, just get the bikers!

 

 

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2 hours ago, ben2talk said:

Wow, yes- phone went crazy. Just seems crazy police will have power to take bikes but not BMW's or Fortuners... As stated before, no fairness implied, just get the bikers!

 

 

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Gotta the nose knows now. 

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ID: 53   Posted

Gotta the nose knows now. 

It's nothing to sneeze at


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ID: 54   Posted

On ‎5‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 9:45 AM, webfact said:

He said that statistics gathered at Songkran showed that 30-40% of motorcyclists involved in accidents had no license or insurance.

 

So, that means that 50%-60% of the accidents involved people WITH licenses. I do not condone breaking the law at all. But what are they saying? Because the numbers say that having a license and insurance involves MORE accidents.

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ID: 55   Posted

1 minute ago, scoutman360 said:

 

So, that means that 50%-60% of the accidents involved people WITH licenses. I do not condone breaking the law at all. But what are they saying? Because the numbers say that having a license and insurance involves MORE accidents.

You've been watching Trump on TV.

 

What it means is that 60-70% of people involved in accidents involved people with licences and the rest had none. That's correct. What we would like to know is how many people on the road have licences...

 

The figures show that more people having accidents have licence and insurance. There is no CAUSAL effect here... having licences doesn't cause accidents. Riding bikes causes accidents, and driver training helps to limit the numbers.

 

Unless the police start moving around and doing some policing, then the matter is unlikely to change. I witness the SAME police blackspots now as I witnessed 10 years ago. They walk the street catching people who ride through them and not touching the ones that do a U-turn and escape, or the ones that simply ride past. They don't record numbers and follow up on offences. Only the people polite enough to stop are ever going to be caught.

 

I wonder why the UK police never thought of doing that - put up a tent in a park and invite people walking through to subject themselves for drug searches...

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13 minutes ago, ben2talk said:

You've been watching Trump on TV.

 

What it means is that 60-70% of people involved in accidents involved people with licences and the rest had none. That's correct. What we would like to know is how many people on the road have licences...

 

The figures show that more people having accidents have licence and insurance. There is no CAUSAL effect here... having licences doesn't cause accidents. Riding bikes causes accidents, and driver training helps to limit the numbers.

 

Unless the police start moving around and doing some policing, then the matter is unlikely to change. I witness the SAME police blackspots now as I witnessed 10 years ago. They walk the street catching people who ride through them and not touching the ones that do a U-turn and escape, or the ones that simply ride past. They don't record numbers and follow up on offences. Only the people polite enough to stop are ever going to be caught.

 

I wonder why the UK police never thought of doing that - put up a tent in a park and invite people walking through to subject themselves for drug searches...

And this has what to do with Trump??

My point was that media uses statistics to emotionalize and lie to people about where the problem is. Yes, they need to enforce the law. Yes,  people need to get insurance and a license. The statistics mentioned has nothing to do with the problem.

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ID: 57   Posted

Why not give it a rest, they will do as they like and guess what we as farangs have no say. Pay the fine and move on.

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On ‎12‎/‎05‎/‎2017 at 11:32 AM, Sure said:

Nevermind motorcyclists, what about car drivers driving illegally?

I am stopped by police for check almost every week when driving my motorbike, never been stopped while driving my car. Indeed I usually never see any car stopped in road blocks in Bangkok, only trucks, pick-ups, lots of motorbikes and some taxis.

My Thai wife drove car without license for months, while making the license, never stopped.

 

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What if u got 1 and forgot take it?

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On 5/18/2017 at 10:48 AM, Xaos said:

What if u got 1 and forgot take it?

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They don't work the same as UK police - radio headquarters and check the computer... forget that. No licence then they will keep your bike until you turn up with your licence. You'll have to pay a fine for riding without the licence (it must be WITH you).

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