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Just now, TonyClifton said:

Laugh more, you'll live longer.

It's why I am grateful to you for your posts. I am on track to make it to 136 now.

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                        Thaibeachlovers and a few others are submitting that Trump is smart.  They're annoyed by people like myself who question Trump's sanity.  I'm not a psychiatrist, but I know stupid when I see it. If I see someone taking a dump in the middle of a road or in front of his house (I've actually seen both those things) I can qualitatively assume that's a stupid person.  If I observe someone eating mushrooms or wild figs which he doesn't know their identity (I've seen both those things), then I assume they're stupid, particularly if they get violently sick afterwards.    

 

                             I'm an observer of people and make assessments on what they say, how they say it, and what they do.   I've observed Trump for many years.  He's an idiot and a shyster.  Due to him being in a powerful political position, he's also a dangerous person.  

 

                             Trump voters fall in to one or both of the following categories:   They're easily duped by a 3rd rate shyster and/or are looking forward to the demise of the USA.

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6 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

Now unless it escaped your notice, these people claim that Trump INADVERTENTLY shared classified information and the Obama administration INTENTIONALLY shared classified Intelligence. That means the Obama administration thought about it, considered it, discussed and planned it - They knew what they were doing ! Trump had NO IDEA what he was doing with classified information. Despite the fact you support him doesn't that scare you even a little, Mr Logical thinker?

 

Precedents have been set on many occasions for sharing classified info with the Russians, but it was always planned and considered and allies were always informed. The information was NOT Trumps to share. The problem now is after seeing what Trump has done, even if Israel says "it's OK", other intel agencies around the world will think 3 times before sharing sensitive info with the USA. That means the USA is less safe due to the actions of Trump who gave info away on a whim.

 

 

It has yet to be proven:

 

1. Trump shared sensitive data.

2. Trump inadvertently shared data or did it on purpose.

 

Not much escapes my notice.  However, I am tickled a bit by the blind hysteria that one article seems to have created here.  No one is addressing the content, only my motives.  

 

Good luck with both.

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1 minute ago, boomerangutang said:

Thaibeachlovers and a few others are submitting that Trump is smart.

But remember that Intelligence is relative and the person that makes such a statement will be using themselves as a benchmark. 

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15 hours ago, TonyClifton said:

I have never been ashamed to be an American.  I have been ashamed of the American People for voting for the likes of Obama, and Bill Clinton but I have never been ashamed to be born into one of the greatest countries in the free world.  

 

There is much to be concerned with in America including those Citizens who would rather spit on The Constitution(s) than defend and protect that for which they stand.  

 

If you are ashamed, then you must have done something wrong.  I have little empathy for you, so snap out of it and fly the true path to freedom.

 

Trump has already fulfilled his destiny, he voted in a conservative Supreme Court Justice.  Everything else and anything else he does is icing on the cake.

 

I am a Libertarian Constitutionalist.  I know what true liberty and freedom entail.  

 

Hang your head in shame if you will, I will walk around proud.

 

you have voted the way that you believe but many , perhaps most Americans disagree with you as do many people in other countries, in the UK Trump is generally seen as a laughing stock which would not matter if it was not for him being the president of the USA

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6 minutes ago, TonyClifton said:

It has yet to be proven:

 

1. Trump shared sensitive data.

2. Trump inadvertently shared data or did it on purpose.

 

Not much escapes my notice.  However, I am tickled a bit by the blind hysteria that one article seems to have created here.  No one is addressing the content, only my motives.  

 

Good luck with both.

Trump has admitted he shared classified Information and McMaster confirmed. Your article says Trump inadvertently shared information. Do keep up.

 

Edited to add: mtls2005, great minds think alike.

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The very next thing that needs to happen is the convening of a full session of NATO counties so the USA can be declared a "rogue state"  and be immediately suspended from membership. This dimwit will without doubt stumble into a shooting war which would then require the other NATO countries, under Article 5, to come to his aid. Let him form an alliance with his Russian buddies. 

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11 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

It has yet to be proven:
 
1. Trump shared sensitive data.
2. Trump inadvertently shared data or did it on purpose.

 

Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse but Trump has already tweeted that he shared sensitive information, and that he did it with purpose.

 

Please try to keep up.

 

 

 

Is that right?  Did his Tweet say what data was shared? Was it sensitive data as in it might hurt a sensitive person's feelings? Or was it classified data?  Do be specific.

 

 

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13 hours ago, TonyClifton said:

Nixon was likely one of our most intelligent Presidents.

Yeah, he sounds brilliant.

 

"Richard Nixon: Well, when the president does it, that means it is not illegal."

:coffee1:

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3 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Yes.

Yes.

N/A.

Yes.

 

I know Trump moves too fast for people to keep up.

 

As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining....

 

There is one Tweet.

 

Maybe there is another, but if this is the Tweet you referenced above, you'll have to explain to me how you derive that sensitive data was shared.  

 

I do see the word share.

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, yardrunner said:

perhaps most Americans disagree

Perhaps, they should have represented themselves at the polls.  My vote went out of a Bangkok Post Office back to my beloved country.  

 

It would seem enough voted to elect Donald Trump as President.  

 

Your logic escapes me.

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7 minutes ago, TonyClifton said:

Was it sensitive data as in it might hurt a sensitive person's feelings? Or was it classified data?  Do be specific.

Guidelines for Data Classification

 

Definitions:

 

"Confidential Data is a generalized term that typically represents data classified as Restricted, according to the data classification scheme defined in this Guideline.  This term is often used interchangeably with sensitive data."

 

"Sensitive Data is a generalized term that typically represents data classified as Restricted, according to the data classification scheme defined in this Guideline."

 

http://www.cmu.edu/iso/governance/guidelines/data-classification.html

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Just now, iReason said:

Guidelines for Data Classification

 

Definitions:

 

"Confidential Data is a generalized term that typically represents data classified as Restricted, according to the data classification scheme defined in this Guideline.  This term is often used interchangeably with sensitive data."

 

"Sensitive Data is a generalized term that typically represents data classified as Restricted, according to the data classification scheme defined in this Guideline."

 

http://www.cmu.edu/iso/governance/guidelines/data-classification.html

 

Wonderful!  Wunderbar! Schoen! 

We have some thinking happening in the ThaiVisa Forums.

It's not something we see often.

 

President Donald Trump put out a Tweet.  It wasn't using the @potus account.  Which definitions do you suppose he was using when he Tweeted?

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