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Football fiasco: Two Britons, Thai accused of Premier League piracy

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11 hours ago, khunken said:

Attending an EPL match costs from GBP30 to GBP60 (not +B4000) and most supporters purchase season tickets which are around GBP550 for Premier League clubs. Given around 25 home games per season, that works out at about 22 pounds per match (around B1000). You may as well say that taking the supporters of any sport away & it would fold but that is not realism - just fantasy.

 

I do agree with you about the transfer fees for players but that has escalated to stupid heights precisely because of the EPL's monopolistics profits going to the clubs. Before the TV rights were worth so much, transfer fees were much lower.

 

Actually it's the couch potato supporters (I'm one) who pay the service providers around the world who feed the huge profits that go back to the EPL.

 

It was the big teams and itv who changed football forever back in 1991-92

 

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Obviously, since so many were benefiting from this crime, some rather silly people are suggesting that the resources spent on the apprehension of the criminals behind this blatant theft would have been better expended on catching drug dealers, corrupt officials etc. 

 

I guess some crimes should be allowed to proceed unimpeded if enough people are deriving benefit from it. 

 

Totally lost on them that they were buying stolen goods but the same hypocrites will call for a guy selling a bit of weed to be strung up. 

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8 minutes ago, Thai Ron said:

guess some crimes should be allowed to proceed unimpeded if enough people are deriving benefit from it. 

 

hit the nail on the head

classic RTP thinking

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42 minutes ago, BangkokNicky said:

it was the big teams that changed football forever back in 1991-92

and before that it was the big teams that changed the rules so they could get bigger. At one time teams shared the net gate revenue (after expenses) and so little clubs like Wimbledon who had home gates of around 6,000 could survive in the top division on the revenue they got from away games at 'big' clubs, Then a cartel of the larger clubs got the rules changed so the home team kept all the money; then extra seats were put in e.g. the drop down from the pitch at Old Trafford was made so they could fir in a couple of extra rows all round before they built the top tier.

 

Of course the massive revenue from TV rights eventually has meant the supporters revenue is only a small percentage of income and supporters are now not treated as well.

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I could not have chosen a better time to depart these fair shores.  ThaiExpat TV and Sport365 kept me sane, and up to date, especially with UK news, political debate and every Spurs match live.

 

I suspect their are alternatives......

 

I have had a great 11 years, but now definitely not sorry to leave.  I will be getting a season ticket for the new stadium in N17, and wembley will be well frequented next season whenever I can.

 

Good luck!

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2 hours ago, elfpattaya said:

I pay the extra for the Smart Family Package, because it has Setanta Sports + about 16 Movie and Series Channels for the missus.

But I agree there is no need to pay the extra for a package. But I believe the package you have with the set top box and sim card is only available to Thais, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Last year the 199 baht/month was openly advertised in their shop in Big C (Surin) and they were happy to give the package to me. I think I had to buy a new SIM card for my smart phone which is a dual SIM phone anyway,  For convenience, my wife signed the 1 year contract/paperwork as the paperwork was in Thai. They took a copy of her ID card.  Previously, I have opened a phone account in my own name with AIS using my passport. I do have a Yellow House Book so I guess I could have signed up in my own right if I had been asked.  I really do not know if  Farangs can open an account with True or whether it is limited to Thais only.   

 

 

 

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True Visions is a rip off.

I'm so glad cancelled them with their 21XX baht worthless platinum package.

 

I save a lot by using AIS fiber optic internet with 100Mbs  speed for 1,000baht a month and IPTV for 10USD/month with MONTHLY payment.

 

IPTV providers, the ones I have tried either have SKY/BT channels or BEIN channels and show all EPL, LA LIGA,  Bundesliga, SerieA, UCL, UEL games and have between 500-1500 channels + videoclub. Some have even catch up channels. Compared with True Visions declining channel list, repeat channels and 30 yr old series channels.

 

Actually those who live in Thailand can subscribe BEIN sports direct streaming service for 199baht/month directly. Sometime they have specials for 399baht for 4 months.

That is cheaper than True soccer package and totally legit.  Can use more than 1 device as well. Mobile app, desktop, laptop, or it is easy to connect laptop to TV with mirror application.

 

If you have Samsung smart TV, with some IPTV providers you  don't even need Kodi (Android) or Mag (Linux) boxes. Even if need such box, I suggest you buy Kodi or Mag box on ebay, amazon and only subscribe for monthly viewing. 

You can use different IPTV providers with 1 box, on 2 portals. 

That way you have flexibility and safety that you always watch what you want and still save over True rip off, with much better content.

If you are not happy with particular IPTV content provider can change easily with monthly subscription.

 

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Question How are they going to stop people using the Internet to watch free streamed premier league - they can't so this is all about Thai influence over what the government does when a complaint is received and the fact that farangs have got in on the business over showing Premier League matches 
Solution don't watch the news and download the content a day late

This way the Thai company having rights get no income and give up trying to charge high prices for a product that people want

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6 minutes ago, JGV said:

Question How are they going to stop people using the Internet to watch free streamed premier league - they can't so this is all about Thai influence over what the government does when a complaint is received and the fact that farangs have got in on the business over showing Premier League matches 
Solution don't watch the news and download the content a day late

This way the Thai company having rights get no income and give up trying to charge high prices for a product that people want

 

If they really want they can block the ip addresses that stream the sports or movies from abroad, they have experience in that, as they block over 100.000 websites currently.

 

But actually I don't think they bother much about that, and of course you can still get around it with a vpn.

 

What this thread is about is some people who had servers within Thailand, and were a direct threat to legal Thai businesses, so they could confiscate them

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Oh well....... Like an earlier poster Expat and 365 provided my only TV and was more than sufficient. They can stu'' the PL, it's the live cricket I signed up of with 365 - now that's gone and is not easy to find a decent stream on the internet. 

 

I can still get BBC, ITV and Channel 4 via the other methods and I suppose that now means moving my computer into the living room and linking it to the TV. Just paid 12 months subs as well to365!!   grrr.

 

I don't know about others, but having been here 12 years I often find that, just as things seem to be settling down in life, something like this happens. There just seems to be no stability.

 

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Oh well....... Like an earlier poster Expat and 365 provided my only TV and was more than sufficient. They can stu'' the PL, it's the live cricket I signed up of with 365 - now that's gone and is not easy to find a decent stream on the internet. 
 
I can still get BBC, ITV and Channel 4 via the other methods and I suppose that now means moving my computer into the living room and linking it to the TV. Just paid 12 months subs as well to365!!   grrr.
 
I don't know about others, but having been here 12 years I often find that, just as things seem to be settling down in life, something like this happens. There just seems to be no stability.
 

I will feel exactly the same if, or when, PulseTV goes the same way as ThaiExpat/365Sport.

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2 minutes ago, emilymat said:

Oh well....... Like an earlier poster Expat and 365 provided my only TV and was more than sufficient. They can stu'' the PL, it's the live cricket I signed up of with 365 - now that's gone and is not easy to find a decent stream on the internet. 

 

I can still get BBC, ITV and Channel 4 via the other methods and I suppose that now means moving my computer into the living room and linking it to the TV. Just paid 12 months subs as well to365!!   grrr.

 

I don't know about others, but having been here 12 years I often find that, just as things seem to be settling down in life, something like this happens. There just seems to be no stability.

 

 

Buy yourself an Android box, instead of moving your PC around, and install Kodi on it. Plenty of decent cricket streams on Kodi.

 

By the way, if you don't like Kodi, with such an Android box you can do the same as your pc to connect to websites.

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