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Phuket Police charge British boyfriend for death of Sophie Anderson

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ID: 46   Posted

Just now, happyas said:

"The fact she fell off is her fault is it not?"

In a thread full of bizarre comments, this one is on the very top of the list.

Fair go, how on earth can you make such a bizarre deduction?

A rider of a bike is responsible for staying on the bike. An adult may be blamed for a child falling off, but an adult has to accept some responsibility--it is not a car in which the rider is contained.

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ID: 47   Posted

2 minutes ago, smotherb said:

A rider of a bike is responsible for staying on the bike. An adult may be blamed for a child falling off, but an adult has to accept some responsibility--it is not a car in which the rider is contained.

Agreed , but she did not "fall off the bike".

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ID: 48   Posted

Just now, happyas said:

Agreed , but she did not "fall off the bike".

Yeah, she lost control of staying on the bike.

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ID: 49   Posted

4 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

This thread is not about an article in the British press.

This thread is not about an Austrian jet ski rider.

If you think British drivers are the best in the world, why did he brake so fast and hard to cause a fatality, why didn't he keep his distance.

Does he have a licence to drive here , a car possibly but a scooter ?

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ID: 50   Posted

Easy to come off a bike especially if you are the pillion passenger, just her bad luck the truck was no doubt barreling down the road hell for leather,it is a common type accident in Thailand,let's not forget 80% of fatalities are on bikes.

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ID: 51   Posted

4 hours ago, Classic Ray said:

UK police now refer to these incidents as collisions, rather than accidents which implies they could not have been prevented. Usually there are a combination of factors like driver actions, excess speed for conditions, lack of proficiency, and weather that contribute to the collision. In my experience there is little scientific investigation in Thailand of collision scenes by qualified staff, so the causes will be decided by guesswork and questioning. So anything can happen, that's why they charge everybody and sort it out later.

Accidents actually no such thing, with proper training, and following the rules 99.9 percent of accidents can be prevented.

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ID: 52   Posted

7 minutes ago, moe666 said:

Accidents actually no such thing, with proper training, and following the rules 99.9 percent of accidents can be prevented.

Note to self, "Do not get out of bed that way will prevent any accident" :wink:

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ID: 53   Posted

LK,

 

It sounds like the motorcycle had an accident causing both people to fall off but the truck runs over one of them. I won't assign blame to either until one hears all the facts. But will say, is this not similar to cars tail gating each other, the first one breaks for whatever reason (doesn't matter) then  the next next and next in line crash into each other. The classic definition of tail gating. Any vehicle that hits a vehicle in front is responsible at fault because they were not following the 3 second rule allowing for adequate distance breaking.

 

I don't care whether Thai or not, cars/trucks go way too fast in this country when following other vehicles based on road conditions (meaning current activity)...   

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ID: 54   Posted (edited)

8 hours ago, wakeupplease said:

I think you must of forgot

 

Maybe the best drivers in the world (but of course, the rest of the planet is sh..)

But what about grammar and syntax!  (have forgotten?)

 

BTW, it's abut Phuket Thailand, not about the UK

Edited by AGLV0121

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ID: 55   Posted

Trucks rarely keep any distance on the next vehicle infront of them thats why he had no chance to break because he was right on their tail.

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ID: 56   Posted (edited)

1 hour ago, dick dasterdly said:

Did many (any?) TV detectives declare "the truck driver at fault"?

 

I haven't read back through the original thread, but seem to remember it was mostly about whether Mr Glass had swerved into another lane to avoid a parked car, or whether he had braked in response to a vehicle braking in front of him, resulting in him losing control  and the 'bike falling over - throwing the victim into the path of the truck.

 

3 hours ago, Borzandy said:

For sure it was an accident. But if you knew how the truck drivers are driving in Thailand, you could change your mind. In other countries, usually the drivers, as they have a good point of view of the scene, brake when it seems dangerous. In this case the truck driver was perfectly able to see the car parked on the bike lane, but he didn't try to break or avoid the accident. As usual in Thailand.

 

 

1 hour ago, WhiteRedPurple said:

Was the truck driver too close? Yes, I would say.....and not paying attention.

 

DID THEY TEST THE TRUCK DRIVER FOR ALCOHOL OR DRUGS. Answer. NO.

 

28 minutes ago, marko kok prong said:

Easy to come off a bike especially if you are the pillion passenger, just her bad luck the truck was no doubt barreling down the road hell for leather,it is a common type accident in Thailand,let's not forget 80% of fatalities are on bikes.

My mistake - there are obviously a few posters holding the truck driver responsible for this accident :sad:.

 

Holding the victim responsible for her death (as per smotherb's posts) is presumably the poster's idea of a joke.

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ID: 57   Posted

3 hours ago, Borzandy said:

For sure it was an accident. But if you knew how the truck drivers are driving in Thailand, you could change your mind. In other countries, usually the drivers, as they have a good point of view of the scene, brake when it seems dangerous. In this case the truck driver was perfectly able to see the car parked on the bike lane, but he didn't try to break or avoid the accident. As usual in Thailand.

 

 

Did you even watch the video .... it was nothing to do with the line of cars parked in the bike lane. The m/bike was in the middle lane and had to slow/stop for a pick-up in front slowing down/stopping.  The big truck was in the outside lane.  Might be that the truck driver could see the situation developing and did not anticipate ... not so uncommon with Thai drivers.   

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ID: 58   Posted

14 hours ago, stevenl said:

Agree, it was an accident. But that means here in Thailand somebody will be charged, happens after all accidents. If nothing serious 500 or 1,000 Baht fine, here probably more.

That is cheap and I know someone had to pay 3K for definitely not their fault ie indicating to go left in a car and a boy racer, as usual, comes up on the inside  and collides with the car.
Why is there insurance then and many I feel have no insurance or drivers license?

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ID: 59   Posted

Just now, LivinginKata said:

 

Did you even watch the video .... it was nothing to do with the line of cars parked in the bike lane. The m/bike was in the middle lane and had to slow/stop for a pick-up in front slowing down/stopping.  The big truck was in the outside lane.  Might be that the truck driver could see the situation developing and did not anticipate ... not so uncommon with Thai drivers.   

I'm obviously missing something here as I didn't think there was any dispute that the 'bike and truck were in different lanes - until the 'bike either swerved into the next lane (to avoid a parked car) or braked to avoid a vehicle ahead braking - throwing the victim into the truck driver's lane?

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ID: 60   Posted

one should always drive a Mercedes ....

- seems like people, Mercedes people in Thailand never get charged with anything - no matter how many people they kill !!!

 

 

 

 

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