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Phuket Police charge British boyfriend for death of Sophie Anderson

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Maybe it was the dog that was about to run after the cat half a mile up the road that caused the traffic ahead to slow, which then caused the man in the blue Honda who was just looking at his son who had dropped some ice cream on the floor of his car  to break  suddenly , causing the pick up behind to also stop suddenly which then left the bike to break, wobble and then the lady to fall off in to the path of the truck? Has anyone else thought of that? :wink:

Arrest all and fine them! In fact, lets hang em. Arrest their mothers too as it's their fault that they were all born.:blink:

 

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17 minutes ago, Goldieinkathu said:

Call it what you want. For me there was no collision involved, the driver lost control of the bike and the passenger fell into the path of a passing vehicle .I prefer to think of it at an accident but each to their own.

PS.  "Both" - did you watch the video?

No I haven't seen the  video 

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13 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Definitely not his fault? I would question that. We all know that motorcyclists use the left hand lane and we all know that they pass on the inside.

 

I am very wary of this when turning left and do a good mirror check and a sideways glance before turning. An additional tactic I use if there's enough clear space is to move into side lane to block any attempt to pass me on that side.

 

''But'', you may argue, ''the motorcyclist should have seen the indication and not tried to pass''. But come on, we all should know the reality here. I don't think I need elaborate!

 

This all about the culture of 'defencive driving'. Expect the unexpected.and be ready for it. Because it's going to happen one day.

 

BTW as a motorcyclist myself this is the kind of incident that has lead me to conclude never to ride in the inside lane and to never pass a vehicle to its nearside.

Just need to make the point that if a vehicle is turning left (with another lane to said driver's left) - then its down to said driver to ensure he isn't cutting across someone else!  Its not a case of the driver in the further left lane trying to "pass on the inside"!

 

Nothing to do with this topic, but I'm more than tired of 'bike drivers being blamed because they 'haven't driven defensively enough' - even when the driver of  a 4 wheeled vehicle is the one that has clearly broken the law!

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16 minutes ago, Goldieinkathu said:

''But'', you may argue, ''the motorcyclist should have seen the indication and not tried to pass''. But come on, we all should know the reality here. I don't think I need elaborate!

 

Sorry, but I need to you elaborate because I have no idea what you are talking about.

Ah, sorry, I fallen into 'wrong attribution trap again! I'm actually replying to a post by jwest10 in post 58. How this happens, I do not quite know, but the TVF system attributes a post to the wrong person unless the poster initiated his own response. It is a very confusing flaw that I wish they would address. It was commented on just  a few days ago. 

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2 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Just need to make the point that if a vehicle is turning left (with another lane to said driver's left) - then its down to said driver to ensure he isn't cutting across someone else!  Its not a case of the driver in the further left lane trying to "pass on the inside"!

 

Nothing to do with this topic, but I'm more than tired of 'bike drivers being blamed because they 'haven't driven defensively enough' - even when the driver of  a 4 wheeled vehicle is the one that has clearly broken the law!

Dick, if you go back and read jwest10's post at 58, then mine, you'll have a better picture of what this is about. Perhaps I should learn to string these post together better!

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19 hours ago, LivinginKata said:

Well ... so much for all the TV detectives declaring the truck driver was at fault.

 

To me it was an unfortunate road accident caused by the bike driver.

 

 

Yes I agree although the truck driver has also been charged with reckless driving. In the papers in the UK today.

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11 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Yes I agree although the truck driver has also been charged with reckless driving. In the papers in the UK today.

 

I believe its quite normal in the event of a road accident involving death that all related parties be charged. 

(first class insurance in Thailand has a 200,000 baht bail bond for this purpose). 

 

The BiB simply appear to be following protocol. The real issue will be what happens IF these charges are actually brought to light. 

It is my guess that charges will be waived and the poor man will be free to grieve the consequences of this tragic accident. 

 

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2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I believe its quite normal in the event of a road accident involving death that all related parties be charged. 

(first class insurance in Thailand has a 200,000 baht bail bond for this purpose). 

 

The BiB simply appear to be following protocol. The real issue will be what happens IF these charges are actually brought to light. 

It is my guess that charges will be waived and the poor man will be free to grieve the consequences of this tragic accident. 

 

You may well be right.  In the report I read it said that they are still awaiting the autopsy report but I cannot see how that would alter anything.  Whatever the outcome it was a real tragedy

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4 hours ago, jwest10 said:

That is cheap and I know someone had to pay 3K for definitely not their fault ie indicating to go left in a car and a boy racer, as usual, comes up on the inside  and collides with the car.
Why is there insurance then and many I feel have no insurance or drivers license?

Somebody goes straight and a car decides to turn left. Car is at fault, and bike is (depending on the situation) entitled to be on the inside.

 

But this is off topic.

Edited by stevenl

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He wasn't drunk or speeding so why is he being charged with reckless driving? It was an accident. He could have fell into the path of the truck too but didn't. No ones to blame as accidents happen. Let it be! Danny has enough of a nightmare from this. It was his unborn child too that perished. I hope he sues for wrongful arrest.

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6 hours ago, happyas said:

Yes you did say that, but for the wrong reason..he did not move into the path of the truck by not looking behind first.

so are you saying he looked first saw the truck then moved into the path of the truck to get killed??

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9 hours ago, stevenl said:

Why do you think LiKs comment was directed at you?

go back and look why i posted this please.then you may understand why i posted it.

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2 hours ago, smotherb said:

Well, happyas, it looks like I do owe you an apology. I did not see that the bike went down. I mistakenly thought the bike stayed upright and he passenger fell off.

 

In that case, it is not the passengers' fault. 

Thank you for apology.

It is a very rare thing on TV.

Most just go hide after they realise that they had made an error. 

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19 minutes ago, catman20 said:

so are you saying he looked first saw the truck then moved into the path of the truck to get killed??

No, i most certainly am not, because we all know that he just did not move into the path of the truck  in any way, shape or form.:sleepy:

 

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