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Manning leaves U.S. prison 7 years after giving secrets to WikiLeaks

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ID: 33   Posted

10 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

What I find fascinating is that to many on the right Edward Snowden is a hero.  But Chelsea Manning is a traitor.  Can someone please explain to me the distinction?

a LOT of it, unfortunately, has to do with only two things:

the facts that

1) Manning was in the military (and people worship the military, right or wrong)

2)Chelsea Manning is transgender

 

to ME, they are BOTH true heroes...

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ID: 34   Posted

Obviously not manning up

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ID: 35   Posted

10 hours ago, LannaGuy said:

Who cares?  he/she is lucky Obama thinks treason is ok

Treason????

Him and snowden are guilty of nothing more than showing up the american military and security agencies as being duplicitous, non transparent, overly intrusive etc etc.

I suppose obama could have done a donald when he was in power and sacked those investigating ...but he isnt a red necked 2 faced coward.

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ID: 36   Posted

11 minutes ago, jenifer d said:

neither is a TRADER, neither are they TRAITORS-

but they ARE certainly TRUE patriots and HEROS for the WORLD,

exposing the criminal actions of the US gov't and military and their global spy operations

Great post

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ID: 37   Posted

3 hours ago, jesimps said:

Both are traitors and deserve to go down for a FULL life term. Treachery is the worst crime of all, possibly causing the deaths of many of your own citizens and allies. 

no, ignorance and apathy  towards immoral wrongs and suppression of truth

is the worst crime of all...

anybody who condones the crimes that Manning and Snowden (and Assange)

have exposed is a real traitor, and deserves to die just like the victims of the immorality exposed do...

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ID: 38   Posted

2 hours ago, LannaGuy said:

Ah it's ok to wear the uniform, sign the declaration of loyalty and secretly give out information which puts your comrades at risk?  sent to jail he/she then goes on hunger strike and get's free 'gender reassignment' and is now complaining of 'routinely having to endure haircuts' whilst in jail

 

you could not make it up

He / she didnt put anyone at risk

No info was released that showed positions, deployment , numbers or weaponry.

IIt showed abuses of human rights and military incompetency.

People have been caught with their pants down and they dont like it.

 

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ID: 39   Posted

2 hours ago, LannaGuy said:

Ah it's ok to wear the uniform, sign the declaration of loyalty and secretly give out information which puts your comrades at risk?  sent to jail he/she then goes on hunger strike and get's free 'gender reassignment' and is now complaining of 'routinely having to endure haircuts' whilst in jail

 

you could not make it up

It appears you could

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ID: 40   Posted

2 hours ago, sanukjim said:

No distinction,They are both traders.They should be in prison for life or as in war time ,shoot them.

They should be taken to florida and thrown in the wetlands to be eaten by alleegaders .

I was only talking about this in a restaurant the other day and mentioned it to my wader.

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27 minutes ago, jenifer d said:

transgender is NOT a lifestyle, and certainly is NOT a choice;

hormones are cheap, and the gov't did NOT pay for any operations,

as a matter of fact just the opposite; they put her into solitary confinement...

and solitary confinement is tantamount to torture, hardly a happy lifestyle

There is a lot of it about these days,even small kids are being taken to specialists to ascertain whether or not...... seems a little weird to me but it's the zeitgeist we live in, 7 year old in handcuffs, boys barely teens raping girls / boys, children being bombed in far away places, we don't all have to eat what is served up from the kitchen.

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ID: 42   Posted

3 hours ago, jesimps said:

Both are traitors and deserve to go down for a FULL life term. Treachery is the worst crime of all, possibly causing the deaths of many of your own citizens and allies. 

Very possibly not causing anything but embarassment in the upper echelons of the military and the spying classes.

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ID: 43   Posted

I'll hope he/she prances into obscurity, but I doubt that will happen.

 

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ID: 44   Posted

There is a lot of it about these days,even small kids are being taken to specialists to ascertain whether or not...... seems a little weird to me but it's the zeitgeist we live in, 7 year old in handcuffs, boys barely teens raping girls / boys, children being bombed in far away places, we don't all have to eat what is served up from the kitchen.

Kids today!
A sentiment as old as humanity ...

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ID: 45   Posted

3 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

I am not sure that we should use the Thai government as the benchmark for ethical domestic policy on any front.

I don't claim to have any expert knowledge of gender assignment issues, but I think that calling it a lifestyle choice is regarded, in these more enlightened days, to be ingorant.

Call me ignorant then, but explain why hardworking taxpayers should have to pay for a man that wants to become a woman to have surgery and drugs etc?

My government can't afford to give pensioners enough money to live on, so why should they go into debt to pay for gender reassignment?

I'm with Thailand on this one.

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