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6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Nope. They collude.

Yup. In Chiang Mai I failed to get 10 "taxis" to go below 100 baht for a 20 baht trip.

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5 hours ago, AndyOz said:

I do have some sympathy with the Taxi drivers. Uber has depended on your view either revolutionised or destroyed the taxi industry wherever it plies its trade.
Whatever your opinion the drivers end up much worse off. I think the balance in Pattaya now is pretty good. The number of baht busses has been greatly reduced, routes and prices are clearly defined If you want to hire a taxi the rules are the same as anywhere else in the world, agree a price you are both happy with before you start your journey.
I understand things could be better and the yellow taxis should have meters that are working all the time.
On the whole I think Pattaya does a pretty good job with their taxis. Keep things the same.


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Disagree 100% that there are less baht buses on Second and Beach.

However, 10 baht from south Rd to North Rd is exceptionally good value. Hasn't gone up in 20 years.

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To add, if a fake taxi meter "collective" driver would actually offer a fare that is competitive to Uber and Grab (don't worry, it does not happen) they would be in violation of the rules they operate under. 

They are not even allowed to use meters. I'm not even sure if they have a fake meter rate schedule in the machines as they're never used. Surely they aren't spending any money on maintaining the meter operation ... 

To suggest the status quo here before Uber with taxis is in any way reasonable or acceptable from a consumer POV is totally absurd.

The baht buses as buses on their limited routes is a different story.

Most locals and tourists, including me, appreciate they are a great bargain ... as buses. 

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Uber is not illegal in Thailand. The Uber driver should file a complaint with the DSI in Bangkok. The Pattaya police is part of the Taxi Mafia.

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10 minutes ago, malcoml said:

I don't get why they are picking on Uber.

 

There is usually a half dozen illegal taxis parked at the front of any major hotel.

the illegal taxis are legally illegal, the Uber taxis are illegally illegal

... it's complicated and fraught with dangerous misunderstandings and innuendo about... pssst... things!

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5 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said:

But it appears that being a vigilante thug is not.

 

And being a member of a local "mafia" exempts you from charges and bringing the "country into disrepute and damaging tourism".

Quite.

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5 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said:

But it appears that being a vigilante thug is not.

 

And being a member of a local "mafia" exempts you from charges and bringing the "country into disrepute and damaging tourism".

Don't forget, most of the taxis and bath buses are owned by police men. 

Just saying, if you have problem with taxi in Pattaya, don't call the cops.

 

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28 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You obviously never tried to take a taxi to Auckland airport. The taxi drivers are just a bunch of extorting crooks.

Pattaya "taxi" prices have always been a rip off if not on the fixed route which is the best priced in Thailand.

Same everywhere though. Try taking a tuk tuk in Phuket!

 

Never had an issue with Taxi's in Aukland... in and around the city, and from and to the airport...

 

Tuk Tuks in Phuket... I agree... A-holes !

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5 hours ago, AndyOz said:

I do have some sympathy with the Taxi drivers. 

I don't. Some of them, as depicted here, are utter a-holes. The rest of your posts are nonsensical and off-tangent. If you do some travelling, you'll see how it really is in the rest of the world.

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Only 2 days ago I saw on the TV a HHK news report about how Hong Kong tourists..when staying in BKK are urged & advised to use Grab taxis & NOT metered taxis due to all the bad reports on metered taxi drivers in/around the city.

 (It's a never ending story here of both metred-taxis & mini-vans blatantly flaunting any/every law on a daily basis.. TiT)

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Taxi drivers. Are the same the world over, some are good whilst there are always a few crooks and hustlers. I've used Uber previously and always found them well above the standard of the average taxi driver. Some taxi drivers refuse to turn on the meter whilst others use the meter and still try to rip you off. I recently took a taxi to a hotel in Bangkok and I noted the meter reading as I got out. I was standing at the rear of the taxi but still in sight of the meter whilst the driver unloaded my luggage, he asked for more than three times the meter reading, I pretended not to understand him and he beckoned hotel staff over to translate and that's when I pointed to the meter. The hotel staff had words with him about ripping off tourists and that was when the taxi driver stated he made a mistake. I told him, in Thai, that I also had made a mistake as I pushed a few notes into his hand and walked into the hotel having only paid half of what was on the meter. I don't mind paying a reasonable fare with a good tip, but I won't be ripped off.

Years ago in London myself and friends used taxis regularly and knew the average fare for the routes we used. One evening a taxi driver on realising we were not locals pretended to forget the route and drove about, he even radioed his base for directions. After he ran the meter up to seven times the normal fare I told him just to take us back to our pickup location, he argued that he knew where we're going to but we insisted on being taken back and on arrival we got out. We refused to pay the meter which was then nine times the usual fare and he threatened to call the police. He was asked what was he going to report, that he collected from here and we were still in the same place having been taken no where.

I had a taxi driver in Hong Kong who had trouble finding the location he was taking me to and when we finally arrived he told me there was no charge as it was his fault and apologised for delaying me. I asked him to collect me later, he arrived promptly at the agreed time and when I paid for the return journey he also got a good tip.

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6 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

He was engaged in an illegal commercial activity.  Uber is not a legal operation in Thailand.

Neither is the psychotic mentality of the Pattaya taxi drivers but no one seems to mind that. With the way Pattaya operates expats should stay well away from the place. It is a cesspit of humanity with thugs, apparently condoned by the authorities, running amok.

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Illegal schmillegal.

Is running a transport monopoly and enforcing it with the threat of violence legal? 

Double standards for days here.

Living here, you can't avoid the GREY areas. 

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5 hours ago, AndyOz said:

I do have some sympathy with the Taxi drivers. Uber has depended on your view either revolutionised or destroyed the taxi industry wherever it plies its trade.
Whatever your opinion the drivers end up much worse off. I think the balance in Pattaya now is pretty good. The number of baht busses has been greatly reduced, routes and prices are clearly defined If you want to hire a taxi the rules are the same as anywhere else in the world, agree a price you are both happy with before you start your journey.
I understand things could be better and the yellow taxis should have meters that are working all the time.
On the whole I think Pattaya does a pretty good job with their taxis. Keep things the same.


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Sorry, but this is BS. In the civilized world you don't have to agree on the fare, as it is stipulated through a government controlled meter.

Same price for everybody and no rip offs by the mob.

 

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6 hours ago, AndyOz said:

I do have some sympathy with the Taxi drivers. Uber has depended on your view either revolutionised or destroyed the taxi industry wherever it plies its trade.
Whatever your opinion the drivers end up much worse off. I think the balance in Pattaya now is pretty good. The number of baht busses has been greatly reduced, routes and prices are clearly defined If you want to hire a taxi the rules are the same as anywhere else in the world, agree a price you are both happy with before you start your journey.
I understand things could be better and the yellow taxis should have meters that are working all the time.
On the whole I think Pattaya does a pretty good job with their taxis. Keep things the same.


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Sympathy??? These are thugs taking law in own hands!. Whatever reason, nobody can play judge. You must have lived here toooooo long.

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