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Pattaya Baht Bus driver tries ripping off tourists

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ID: 21   Posted

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

400 baht sounds like a typical Pattaya charter fare for that ride. 

It's not per person on a charter. It's for the ride. 

If the authorities are serious about cracking down on overcharging, these occasional show news items aren't going to cut it. 

 

As far as what's really a "fair" fare for that ride, I'd say 150, not 250. An Uber car fare for the same ride is 75 - 90 baht but wouldn't move 8 people. 

 

 

I thought UBER were illegal.  I've only just read that this group have been deemed illegal. By whom and where?

I would certainly use UBER rather than be ripped off paying 300baht from the bus station down to Jom Tien.

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ID: 22   Posted

They are ripping tourists off every minute but motorbike drivers do like to pick a fight 😆

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ID: 23   Posted

I though baht buses were 'restricted' to Beach, Second with the out station runs to Jomtien and Naklua? Is Third now an officially sanctioned baht bus route? Of course there are baht buses to be seen on Third but if it is not on the 'listed' routes, maybe anyone getting picked up there will be open to being ripped off as a charter versus a regular fare.

 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

...the tourists had been picked up on 3rd Road, ...

 

The article isn't specific on whether these Chinese arbitrarily flagged down and got into the baht bus (which would be the 10 baht/person rate) or stopped him and asked specifically to go to Central Marina (without negotiating the charter fare first).

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ID: 24   Posted

smaller tires  // surely this would increase fuel consumption   sort of self defeating exercise 

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12 minutes ago, Lamkyong said:

smaller tires  // surely this would increase fuel consumption   sort of self defeating exercise 

the amount of fuel consumed is obviously less than the $$ reflection on the meter by going small on tires. I lived in a eastern european country and this was the practice when meters were mechanical back then. I believe with electronic meters the case would not be same or possible as the new meter get their reading off a chip on the transmission but don't quote me on that as technology  constantly is improving 

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6 hours ago, webfact said:

it was important not to take advantage of tourists as they bring a lot of value to Pattaya

this police comment shows an unprecedented degree of insight and maturity, as well as an understanding of international relations and world economics. It's also utter claptrap by not punishing the driver.

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4 hours ago, darksidedog said:

A better result would have been arresting the driver for trying to gouge the tourists. That would send the right message to both drivers and tourists.

I agree or a hefty fine or better both

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ID: 28   Posted

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

400 baht sounds like a typical Pattaya charter fare for that ride. 

It's not per person on a charter. It's for the ride. 

If the authorities are serious about cracking down on overcharging, these occasional show news items aren't going to cut it. 

 

As far as what's really a "fair" fare for that ride, I'd say 150, not 250. An Uber car fare for the same ride is 75 - 90 baht but wouldn't move 8 people. 

 

 

Two Uber cars would have done it, but then they'd have to find about 40 Pattaya taxis to box them in and threaten the UBer drivers and passenegers.

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ID: 29   Posted (edited)

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

I though baht buses were 'restricted' to Beach, Second with the out station runs to Jomtien and Naklua? Is Third now an officially sanctioned baht bus route? Of course there are baht buses to be seen on Third but if it is not on the 'listed' routes, maybe anyone getting picked up there will be open to being ripped off as a charter versus a regular fare.

 

 

The article isn't specific on whether these Chinese arbitrarily flagged down and got into the baht bus (which would be the 10 baht/person rate) or stopped him and asked specifically to go to Central Marina (without negotiating the charter fare first).

No, there is no 3rd road route.

Baht buses can be seen other places off route for various reasons but not running as buses. 

The story was about a CHARTER.

 

We know it was the North part of 3rd road. The section of 3rd road that could be called that is really not that big. It was rather a short trip. The fare of 400 was OUTRAGEOUS, but in my view, a typical fare offer from the baht bus charter. 

 

Also however they boarded, it is well known by locals anyway that if you SPEAK to a driver about going to a specific destination there is a real chance the driver may try to convert to charter, even on set routes.

 

 

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ID: 30   Posted

4 hours ago, rkidlad said:

Yes, it's a wonderful system. Try it with newbies and it's okay. Try it with people who know better and the police have to get involved and lower the price because it is indeed  "too much".

 

Let's hope not too many people know the real price. The police will have to be doing a lot more work. Hell! If the police have to keep coming to negotiate, they may have to even set up a standard price with a board and a list of prices. That would be crazy. 

At least it's giving the police something to do.

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ID: 31   Posted

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ID: 32   Posted

3 hours ago, pattayadude said:

the amount of fuel consumed is obviously less than the $$ reflection on the meter by going small on tires. I lived in a eastern european country and this was the practice when meters were mechanical back then. I believe with electronic meters the case would not be same or possible as the new meter get their reading off a chip on the transmission but don't quote me on that as technology  constantly is improving 

 less than the $$ reflection   (BAHT)

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ID: 33   Posted

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Police did comment that the 400 Baht was in fact to much and stressed that it was important not to take advantage of tourists as they bring a lot of value to Pattaya.

Yes, well, the baht bus drivers' eyesight is affected by pictures of coloured notes dancing in front of them. They consequently fail to connect the dots.

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ID: 34   Posted

5 hours ago, pattayadude said:

I didn't know it had one

A downhill?

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ID: 35   Posted

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

400 baht sounds like a typical Pattaya charter fare for that ride. 

It's not per person on a charter. It's for the ride. 

If the authorities are serious about cracking down on overcharging, these occasional show news items aren't going to cut it. 

 

As far as what's really a "fair" fare for that ride, I'd say 150, not 250. An Uber car fare for the same ride is 75 - 90 baht but wouldn't move 8 people. 

 

 

400 baht to charter a baht bus is way to much. It doesn't even sound fare. 
Anyone who ever goes shopping in Big C and charters a bus/taxi that are waiting there to pick up customers knows that to charter one it costs about 250 Baht for a drive between 4-6 km. Longer distances don't even go that much higher.  A normal baht bus from the junction at second road and Pattaya tai already can be chartered for 200 Baht to Jomtien beach road. That is more then what they usually collect (+-150 baht) when the bus is loaded up at the junction. 

 

Uber's prices vary a bit more on availability of Uber drivers. I have been quoted 150 baht for even shorter distances because only one driver was available. so comparing this with
Uber is more of a hit and miss.

 

200 Baht for a baht bus charter is fair, unless your itinerary takes the baht bus to much out of his normal route. The further away from his assigned route the higher the rate.


 

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ID: 36   Posted (edited)

6 hours ago, mikebell said:

150 for the baht bus driver after their negotiation fee had been deducted.

whenever there is a jetski scam, the police is called to settle the dispute(!).

Apparently the jetski got damaged(pre-existing scratch on the bottom)  during the ride and this rough-looking loud-mouth operator is seeking 20,000bht from this poor tourist who has no idea what the heck is going on.

Police(partner) arrives on the scene and after a careful inspection(LOL), he finds the amount to be unfair(previously staged) for the damage(damage!) and settles it at 12,000bht.

My suggestion: if you decide to rent jetski, make sure you bring a bluetooth underwater camera  and a bluetooth printer. take photos of the bottom of jetski and print on A4, have operator sign photos, you sign and keep for future proof.

Enjoy the ride!

Edited by pattayadude

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ID: 37   Posted

1 hour ago, Jonmarleesco said:

A downhill?

an image.

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ID: 38   Posted

10 hours ago, Pattaya28 said:

Well calculated.

250 baht easily divisible by 8.

31.25 each passenger.

Did the driver have a pile of satangs I wonder ?

Hope the image of Pattaya did not go further downhill with this attempted rip-off.

How something can go downhill if it is already at the bottom?

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ID: 39   Posted

The army regulated the prices some time ago so how comes the police don't know the price?

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ID: 40   Posted

12 minutes ago, just.a.thought said:

The army regulated the prices some time ago so how comes the police don't know the price?

I don't recall that charter fares were regulated. 

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