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Do you think Trump will be impeached or forced to resign?

Do you believe Trump will be impeached or forced to resign?  

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  1. 1. Do you believe Trump will be impeached or forced to resign?

    • Yes, if he is not impeached, he will eventually resign.
      160
    • No, he will not be impeached or forced to resign.
      189


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Thaidream    4,342

Trump may well be impeached if the special counsel is able to find some link with Trump and Russia- meaning he either knew what his minions were doing or he later found out and tried to cover it up.  Conviction on Impeachment is much harder as the Senate convenes and there must be a 2/3 vote for conviction. No President has ever been convicted and lost the Presidency.

 

As much as I disagree with Trump on most everything- he is a wily survivor. He will eventually realize his closest associates are not competent and he will fire them all. Loyalty is one thing- survival is something else.  He will replace them with White House Vets who know how to manage the media and the Congress. In addition, Trump needs to stop tweeting. His tweets are killing him and his agenda. Instead of concentrating on useless border walls; deporting hard working illegals with no criminal background- he needs to get a real healthcare bill passed that does not place a burden on the poor but instead the wealthy; get a tax cut through that places the money in the hands of the poor and middle class and not the wealthy.

 

If Trump can pull off some of the above- his base will rally and he could pull in some Democrats who are sitting on the fence. If the Special Counsel finds no links to Trump on the Russia issue- he could get off the hook and finish his term. In the interim, his best profile is to not get involved in the 'dirt' of the alleged Russia ties. He should say he welcomes the investigation and not comment any further. Every time someone asks a question about it- all he has to say is there is an ongoing investigation and he cannot comment until the investigation is completed.

 

The next big fight is going to come in September when the Congress has to vote on the next budget and extension of the debt ceiling. If the Republicans with Trump's support shuts down the Government- they will lose huge numbers of seats in the 2018 elections and may well lose control of the Senate. Then Impeachment becomes more possible .

 

I do not think Trump is the answer to what ails America. He was voted in because there are many Americans who feel hopeless- no matter how hard they  work they cannot forge ahead. The real answer lies in setting a tax policy that redistributes income from the very wealthy to the poor so the poor are no longer poor and the middle class sees a rise in their standard of living. The wealthy will still be wealthy after the new tax system- but this redistribution will eliminate some of the current discord. In addition- America must have a single payer healthcare system in which all profit is taken out of the system. Every industrialized country in the World has this system and it provides healthcare security for its citizens and gets rid of profit making insurance and controls Big Pharma.

 

Trump is right on one issue and that is the unfair trade policies that have hampered America for generations. There has to be more equity in the system- free trade doesn't mean countries can sell their productions in the US at reduced prices while American  products are hit by high excise taxes that make them unsellable in foreign countries. Thailand is a perfect example- I see many American products in Thai markets that cost 5 times higher than what they would sell for in America yet Thai products are sold cheaply in the US.  How about some fairplay.

 

Lastly, the rhetoric of Donald Trump has caused an increase in racism; discrimination and a coarseness in normal discourse that has no place in American society or in any society. Even on this board- there are comments made about a person's color; ethnic background and gender that is denigrating and out of bounds. I have heard no comments from President Trump indicating he disavows this type of rhetoric and by his silence he is showing his acquiescence and subtle approval. People of all stripes in a society have to work together to solve complex issues not scream and yell and curse the wind..Trump has not brought society together- he has shown a disdain for all who disagree with him.

 

I doubt Donald Trump could ever be re-elected- unless he does all of the things necessary to increase jobs and put more money in the poor and middle class pockets.Just remember- he does not have a full mandate from the American voter- he lost the popular vote by 3 million votes so he will need to get many Democrats to switch for the 2020 vote-

 

 I haven't even touched on his foreign affairs policy which so far is bombastic and without direction.  His first overseas trip is to Saudia Arabia where he is being welcomed as a long lost brother- but then again he brought the Sadias $110 Billion in US arms  and the Saudis love their toys.

 

 

 

 

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iReason    8,003
3 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

Problem with Trump is that he has promised poor people high-paying jobs and great health care, but, also promised the super-rich tax-cuts and the removal of regulations.

 

And the followers lap up his promise to bring back manufacturing jobs:

 

"Mr Trump and his advisers are obsessed with the effect of trade on manufacturing jobs,

even though manufacturing employs only 8.5% of America’s workers and accounts for only 12% of GDP." 

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21721904-impulsiveness-and-shallowness-americas-president-threaten-economy-well-rule

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KarenBravo    8,050

One day, the penny will drop that a poor person's vote is equivalent to a rich person's vote and there are far more of the former than the latter (the Thaksin model). 

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ResandePohm    399
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1 minute ago, tomwct said:

Never happen! President Trump will be one of the best Presidents the US has ever scene! He'll also be re-elected with the popular vote and  more electorial votes than before. In addition, more states will go Republican in the next 3 voting cycles.

I see the dreamers are out

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sujoop    763
33 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The poll is almost tied.

That says to me that there are a whole lot of TVF members that don't oppose Trump not participating in the threads related to Trump, as almost all the posters on such threads are anti Trump.

I don't blame them though.

Not surprising poll results  given the base of ageing western (white) males, many with well documented penchants for xenophobia, misogyny and bigotry in their posts. Angry at a progressive world and women, minorities and immigrants who are all to blame for their own shortcomings crowd. TV should be careful not to go the way of Voat, as apparently there's not much currency in this demographic...

In another victory for humanity, the far right alternative to Reddit is dying:
http://www.avclub.com/article/another-victory-humanity-far-right-alternative-red-255642

 

Meanwhile, Trump will end up resigning no doubt (and blaming/whining all the way) and then start Trump TV (O'Reilly / Hannity / KellyAnne / Spicer / Amarosa all shoe-ins;)

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iReason    8,003
3 minutes ago, tomwct said:

President Trump will be one of the best Presidents the US has ever scene!

He'll also be re-elected with the popular vote and  more electorial votes than before.

In addition, more states will go Republican in the next 3 voting cycles.

 

Just making stuff up.

:coffee1:

 

In a barely decipherable way...

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dundas    219
7 minutes ago, tomwct said:

Never happen! President Trump will be one of the best Presidents the US has ever scene! He'll also be re-elected with the popular vote and  more electorial votes than before. In addition, more states will go Republican in the next 3 voting cycles.

Thank goodness! I was of the view that as the poor get poorer (more and more people on non-living wages, lose health care, etc ), they would vote for something a bit more leftwing/liberal, but fortunately, they're happy being shafted.

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KarenBravo    8,050
1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Not going to happen. To impeach, the GOP would have to unite and join Dems. Does anyone think that is going to happen?

If the GOP think Pence would be better at advancing their cause, it may happen.

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riclag    104
39 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The poll is almost tied.

That says to me that there are a whole lot of TVF members that don't oppose Trump not participating in the threads related to Trump, as almost all the posters on such threads are anti Trump.

I don't blame them though.

I agree with you.I was anticipating a 70/30 so far.  Good topic though.

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