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7 minutes ago, Eli1 said:

I see, the girl walks out on the road bumps a cyclist while she is on her phone the cyclist goes underneath the bus the girl turns around looks at the cyclist being under the bus then freaks out and takes off that has all the hallmarks of guilt need to say no more. If that accident happened in a civilized nation that girl would be done for manslaughter no questions asked.

So tell me this why did she run away.

Not my place to tell you. 

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6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not my place to tell you. 

I wouldn't have guessed.

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WATCH THE VIDEO AGAIN!!

The lady walking saw the cyclist charging towards her and tried to move her arm out of the way at the last moment. Sorry but I'm putting this on the cyclist who appears to have lost control at that moment. 

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20 hours ago, Eli1 said:

So tell me this why did she run away

She was in shock , thats easy to understand. She tried to move her arm away in the last second,.

Don't blame this accident on the pedestrian alone, they both could have done things differently.   As a cyclist I know I would have paid attention on such a narrow and busy road and slowed down. I mean really slow down . 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, balo said:

She was in shock , thats easy to understand. She tried to move her arm away in the last second,.

Don't blame this accident on the pedestrian alone, they both could have done things differently.   As a cyclist I know I would have paid attention on such a narrow and busy road and slowed down. I mean really slow down . 

 

 

 

 

 

Mate you can pretend you're a cyclist and you sympathize with the cyclist but you're not really. if you're a cyclist you know you can't go any slower then what that cyclist was going as slow as she could that pedestrian just came out like an idiot thinking the whole world revolves around her we need to stop making excuses for these people this girl should have stopped and helped she was guilty that's why she took off.

 

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14 hours ago, eeyang wah said:

WATCH THE VIDEO AGAIN!!

The lady walking saw the cyclist charging towards her and tried to move her arm out of the way at the last moment. Sorry but I'm putting this on the cyclist who appears to have lost control at that moment. 

I'm not sure what video you're looking at but the way I'm  perceiving it the idiot pedestrian on the phone was the one that came out onto a ROAD without looking then she realised what she did look back and took off like the guilty coward she was.

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The road is for vehicles, motorbikes, cyclists, etc. As a pedestrian walking in the 'road' (which you do need to do in Thailand often) she should have been more vigilant with regard to spatial awareness. Her meagre, last second arm sway was an act of defiance, like as if she had every right to be there, if not more than, at least as much as the cyclist.

It was undoubtedly a tragic accident, but brought about by an act of belligerence rather than courtesy. I have every sympathy for the cyclist and none for the pedestrian

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On 7/19/2017 at 5:39 AM, foxboy said:

The road is for vehicles, motorbikes, cyclists, etc. As a pedestrian walking in the 'road' (which you do need to do in Thailand often) she should have been more vigilant with regard to spatial awareness. Her meagre, last second arm sway was an act of defiance, like as if she had every right to be there, if not more than, at least as much as the cyclist.

It was undoubtedly a tragic accident, but brought about by an act of belligerence rather than courtesy. I have every sympathy for the cyclist and none for the pedestrian

Highly agree with you mate on the money without a doubt that pedestrian was belligerent to the max... Did you see how she looked back and took off that made me so angry knowing that there are people out there that would leave you for dead, like her.

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Nobody appears to have noticed that the bike rider has a companion rider (who turns around and comes back), the companion rider goes past the pedestrian at about 20 secs, the lady bike rider is chasing/following the companion and possibly trying to take the same path as the companion. The pedestrian does not move her shoulder towards the bike rider , she moves her hip away from the bike. At a certain freeze frame it appears the pedestrian has put her shoulder out , she hasnt.

The victim and the companion (male) have matching gear on , so there is no doubt they are together. The victim is definitely trying to follow and "keep up" with the male companion.

I would guess that the victim has just ducked out from behind the bus, chasing her companion.

There is no footpath and all through the clip many pedestrians are seen walking on the same road, there is enough space for the pedestrians, bikes and cars until the bus comes along. At this point the bike rider is going to fast into a small part of the road where pedestrians are walking.

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On 7/21/2017 at 11:10 AM, Peterw42 said:

There is no footpath and all through the clip many pedestrians are seen walking on the same road, there is enough space for the pedestrians, bikes and cars until the bus comes along. At this point the bike rider is going to fast into a small part of the road where pedestrians are walking.

I agree, it is easy to blame it all on the pedestrian , but in this case the bike rider were not adjusting to the traffic pattern .

Also she should be aware of the bus , I have a mirror on my bicycle and always look for trucks and buses on busy roads and slow down. 

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5 hours ago, balo said:

I agree, it is easy to blame it all on the pedestrian , but in this case the bike rider were not adjusting to the traffic pattern .

Also she should be aware of the bus , I have a mirror on my bicycle and always look for trucks and buses on busy roads and slow down. 

Adjusting to what traffic)? A pedestrian is not traffic especially one that just comes out on to a road with out looking all she was doing is looking at her phone without any conscience whatsoever, that bicycle rider was not expecting that at and she was in her right to be cycling on that road and she wasn't speeding at all, that pedestrian just came straight out sorry guys. 

That pedestrian should be charged for manslaughter... And tell me this why did she take of like the guilty person she was... Mmmmmm. Sorry guys you're not convincing me at all that video tells the story.

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On 7/21/2017 at 2:10 PM, Peterw42 said:

Nobody appears to have noticed that the bike rider has a companion rider (who turns around and comes back), the companion rider goes past the pedestrian at about 20 secs, the lady bike rider is chasing/following the companion and possibly trying to take the same path as the companion. The pedestrian does not move her shoulder towards the bike rider , she moves her hip away from the bike. At a certain freeze frame it appears the pedestrian has put her shoulder out , she hasnt.

The victim and the companion (male) have matching gear on , so there is no doubt they are together. The victim is definitely trying to follow and "keep up" with the male companion.

I would guess that the victim has just ducked out from behind the bus, chasing her companion.

There is no footpath and all through the clip many pedestrians are seen walking on the same road, there is enough space for the pedestrians, bikes and cars until the bus comes along. At this point the bike rider is going to fast into a small part of the road where pedestrians are walking.

We all noticed the companion of the bike rider mate she was the only one that's helping how could we not have noticed that!!

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We are all taking different sides as to whether the pedestrian moved/didn't move, away/towards the cyclist.. but that is irrelevant. She knocked her off her bike, we cannot dispute that. 

If the cyclist was riding on the pavement she would owe a duty of care to avoid pedestrians. A pedestrian walking in the road owes a duty of care to avoid being hit by vehicles, including cyclists. If she wandered into the path of a car and it had no time or space to avoid her, is it the driver's fault if he hits her??? Hell no!! 

The negligence of the pedestrian is to blame here, she should have had her eyes open and her wits about her. I only wish the lady had been riding a Sam-lor rather than a bicycle, to produce a very different outcome! 

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Pedestrians fault. Basic road crossing knowledge.

Stop, look left and right and cross. Not look at your phone and walk in the street. Similar to the child not too long ago. He came out into the road from behind a truck and got hit.

Tragic accidents that could be prevented by basic education that most Westerners learnt at pre school.

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1 hour ago, foxboy said:

We are all taking different sides as to whether the pedestrian moved/didn't move, away/towards the cyclist.. but that is irrelevant. She knocked her off her bike, we cannot dispute that. 

If the cyclist was riding on the pavement she would owe a duty of care to avoid pedestrians. A pedestrian walking in the road owes a duty of care to avoid being hit by vehicles, including cyclists. If she wandered into the path of a car and it had no time or space to avoid her, is it the driver's fault if he hits her??? Hell no!! 

The negligence of the pedestrian is to blame here, she should have had her eyes open and her wits about her. I only wish the lady had been riding a Sam-lor rather than a bicycle, to produce a very different outcome! 

Yes, I would agree with what you say, but in this instance there is no footpath its a shared space, to a certain extent the cyclist is riding on the pavement and the pedestrian is on the road, in a shared space they both have a duty of care to avoid each other, appropriate speed etc.

The bike hits the pedestrian, not the other way round.

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