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14 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said:

When will those people from the colonies ever learn. We took everything we could from their country, set up independent government, introduced genocide to reduce minorities, taught the latest techniques of torture and now they have the hide to seek refuge in our lands. Ungrateful lot.  

And now you bend over and say sorry? And take whatever punishment you as a masochist must take.

 

Sorry old mate, that's not they way of the world.....the strongest will always survive. even if we have to take the piss weak with us on the journey. Enjoy the ride. Or enjoy the subjudication into Islam. Those are your two choices,

 

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The so called "Jungle" has been dismantled and France has no obligation to facilitate the passage of illegal immigrants to UK,   

Some events need to be reminded :

 

"Calais: Van driver killed in crash caused by migrants' motorway road block" 

https://www.thelocal.fr/20170620/calais-lorry-driver-killed-after-crashing-into-migrants-motorway-barricade

 

"The Grande Synthe camp of tightly-packed wooden cabins, set up just over a year ago, was 70 percent destroyed by the blaze on Monday night after clashes between Iraqi Kurds and Afghans, Michel Lalande, a top regional official, told Reuters. "

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-france-idUSKBN17C2MM

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5 hours ago, tryasimight said:

And now you bend over and say sorry? And take whatever punishment you as a masochist must take.

 

Sorry old mate, that's not they way of the world.....the strongest will always survive. even if we have to take the piss weak with us on the journey. Enjoy the ride. Or enjoy the subjudication into Islam. Those are your two choices,

 

Don't know how old you are; did u ever listen too and like Cat Stevens.

 

1 in abt 5 million refugees is or may be a terrorist.

 

Are you misanthropy in your beliefs?

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8 hours ago, landslide said:

Anybody who has seen the news reports or videos of the actions of these so called migrants in Calais should take their complaints with a grain of salt.  The internet is rife with videos of these so called peaceful refugees attacking truck drivers, attempting to break into the cargo holds, and blocking the roads with debris in attempts to sneak into Britain.  Laws mean nothing to them.  And their is not a woman or child in sight.

Another myth. Whatever the wrongs may be, there are/were women and children at the Calais camps. Also documented by HMG humanitarian efforts to assist children at the camps, but as usual denigrated by those from 'right of centre'.

 

https://www.imi.ox.ac.uk/blog/refugee-women-and-children-in-the-calais-2018jungle2019-and-the-dismantling-of-the-camp-is-it-really-the-end

 

 

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11 hours ago, observer90210 said:

Ok I followed your advice and just asked them.

 

They said that the UK must pay for the deportation in full (and not split the costs as I suggested)..sorry your idea was not all that good after all...:sleep::cheesy:

You said the UK and the EU must pay, last time I checked the UK is still in the EU. These people are not in the UK but you want the UK to pay twice. 

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1 hour ago, landslide said:

snip -  radical left who see only one perspective. .

I consider myself centre right

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1 hour ago, landslide said:

<snip> I don't consider myself far right, but do attempt to comment on what I see sometimes, regardless of those on the radical left who see only one perspective. .

Interesting how people who deny they are to the right of centre, nearly always counter by referring to 'radical left'.

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17 hours ago, observer90210 said:

Well if you deport them, it has a cost...somebody has to pay?...Who?

 

 

The EU countries which allowed them to travel from their point of entry through mainland Europe.

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Sadly, the only way to slow down/stop illegal migrants is to put those caught into something resembling highly guarded concentration camps :sad:.  i.e.  only basic amenities available - but enough to prevent disease epidemics/starvation etc.

 

Only when they can then prove that they genuinely need to flee to EUROPE to escape persecution, should they be treated as refugees.

 

It should be easy to sort out the cost of deportation - share the cost amongst the countries affected, and deduct the cost from the originating countries' foreign aid allocation - as pointed out by other posters.

 

Some arrive without any documentation - so to where would they be deported?

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2 hours ago, nontabury said:

Having read many of your post on TV. I think you are very left wing, combined with being very naive.

Incorrect

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A lot of debate on deporting these individuals with no easy resolution as to how this may happen.

Meanwhile these criminals are free to roam across Europe commiting further crime, with no checks on their medical status & risk of potential virus. 

 

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On 31/07/2017 at 11:50 PM, LammyTS1 said:

A lot of debate on deporting these individuals with no easy resolution as to how this may happen.

Meanwhile these criminals are free to roam across Europe commiting further crime, with no checks on their medical status & risk of potential virus. 

 

Along with most posters in this topic, totally ignored the OP.

 

How many / what percentage of those at Calais have been assessed as 'illegal migrants'. As I recall there is a two year delay for assessment of asylum seekers in France, have the processing times improved? 

 

"Risk of potential virus" is a classic far right mime.

 

Migration and communicable diseases: no systematic association

 

http://www.euro.who.int/en/health-topics/health-determinants/migration-and-health/migrant-health-in-the-european-region/migration-and-health-key-issues

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