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7by7    6,295
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8 hours ago, theoldgit said:

@pumpjack -  What is your wife's status in the UK?

 

Joe asked if she needed a valid passport to remain in the UK, I don't know for sure but I believe her Immigration Status might dictate the answer. 

 It doesn't really matter, og. 

 

If she has a visa or leave to remain vignette in her old passport, this is still valid even though the passport has expired. Although UKVI encourage people to transfer the vignette to the new passport or obtain a BRP if relevant, so they can collect the exorbitant fee; there is no legal requirement to so do. From Transfer your visa from your passport

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1. Overview

You can still use your visa even if your passport’s expired, but you can choose to replace it with a biometric residence permit (BRP) if you’re in the UK.

You must replace your visa with a BRP if your name or personal details change.

If your passport has expired

You can still use the valid visa in your expired passport, but you’ll need to show your expired passport and your new passport when you’re travelling to and from the UK.

 

If pumpjack's wife moved to the UK after BRPs replaced LTR vignettes and so does have one then that is, of course, still valid until it's expiry date regardless of whether or not she has a valid passport.

 

Though, of course, when she leaves the UK she will need a valid passport as well in order to re-enter.

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pumpjack    306
11 hours ago, Chivas said:

Absolutely not and rightly so. She "may" well be able to enter thailand on an expired passport but not a chance in hell will you persuade Etihad check in to fly her. Ridiculous....

so,   ubon joe & 7x7 & oldgit  

 

are all wrong ?   im, sure they are all 3 of them experts in this field.

 

can you provide proof ?  

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Chivas    630
12 hours ago, 7by7 said:

My daughter flew to Thailand earlier this year with BA using her expired Thai passport, no problem.

Thats appalling then simple as. Nobody but nobody should be travelling on expired passports in this day and age let alone a major airline condoning it......tell you what we'll get rid of scanners as well in the interim lets make it even easier

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Chivas    630
12 hours ago, pumpjack said:

so,   ubon joe & 7x7 & oldgit  

 

are all wrong ?   im, sure they are all 3 of them experts in this field.

 

can you provide proof ?  

Dont care who they are lol, you're telling me in this age of upmost security that people are flying on major carriers on expired passports !  "Experts" dont encourage people to try and fly on expired passports and any third party reading the conversation would likewise be horrified this it could be suggested.

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7by7    6,295
20 minutes ago, Chivas said:

Thats appalling then simple as. Nobody but nobody should be travelling on expired passports in this day and age let alone a major airline condoning it......tell you what we'll get rid of scanners as well in the interim lets make it even easier

 

15 minutes ago, Chivas said:

Dont care who they are lol, you're telling me in this age of upmost security that people are flying on major carriers on expired passports !  "Experts" dont encourage people to try and fly on expired passports and any third party reading the conversation would likewise be horrified this it could be suggested.

 Chivas, not the first time you simply wont accept that you are wrong.

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brewsterbudgen    5,433
27 minutes ago, Chivas said:

Dont care who they are lol, you're telling me in this age of upmost security that people are flying on major carriers on expired passports !  "Experts" dont encourage people to try and fly on expired passports and any third party reading the conversation would likewise be horrified this it could be suggested.

The thread is about a citizen returning to their home country on an expired passport.  A quick Google search will show you that is possible.

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7by7    6,295
59 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

 

1 hour ago, Chivas said:

Thats appalling then simple as. Nobody but nobody should be travelling on expired passports in this day and age let alone a major airline condoning it......tell you what we'll get rid of scanners as well in the interim lets make it even easier

Chivas, not the first time you simply wont accept that you are wrong.

Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on you, as it is obvious that you do not know why airlines check the passports of passengers checking in for international flights.

 

International agreements mean that an airline can be fined a substantial amount, up to 15,000 USD if memory serves, if they knowingly carry a passenger who does not have the correct entry clearance for their destination.

 

This is why they check passports of international passengers.

 

As repeatedly stated, Thai nationals can enter Thailand using an expired Thai passport; so the airlines don't, or shouldn't, have a problem with this.

 

Of course, all passengers have to pass through the required security checks.

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theoldgit    2,812
Thats appalling then simple as. Nobody but nobody should be travelling on expired passports in this day and age let alone a major airline condoning it......tell you what we'll get rid of scanners as well in the interim lets make it even easier
As I've said before a passport is a means of proving that you're a citizen of a particular country, and thus entitled to enter without restriction, whilst a passport may have expired the information it contains doesn't.

 

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brewsterbudgen    5,433
1 hour ago, pumpjack said:

UPDATE !!

 

chivas is wrong.  

 

i just called ETIHAD today and they confirm that a THAI  national flying to home country ( thailand )  with an expired thai passport is allowed to board with no restrictions. 

 

i asked for it in writing but was told they do not email customers, however she assured me that the data she was looking at is the same data which checkin staff use,  so no problems whatsover :smile:

Thanks for the update.  It's good to know that our resident experts are usually right!

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