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Wife's Thai I.D. wrong name......after 29 years???

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OJAS    890
4 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

Totally not my experience and always do myself - there is actually very little communication required with passing the required documents and waiting for passport stamp.

Admittedly my experience is only based on my dealings with the Rayong office. I was particularly glad that she was with me last year when they asked for a TM30, which she as the relevant housemaster was to complete. The officer was able to explain to her directly and in their common native language what was required - instead of having to use me as an intermediary, with the consequential risk of linguistic misunderstandings being introduced both on the officer's part (in explaining the requirements to me) and mine (in passing these on to my wife).

 

But I would imagine that the officers tend to be rather more fluent in English at the larger offices such as Chaengwattana (which I gather is yours), Jomtien and Chiang Mai.

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lopburi3    4,677
8 hours ago, OJAS said:

Admittedly my experience is only based on my dealings with the Rayong office. I was particularly glad that she was with me last year when they asked for a TM30, which she as the relevant housemaster was to complete. The officer was able to explain to her directly and in their common native language what was required - instead of having to use me as an intermediary, with the consequential risk of linguistic misunderstandings being introduced both on the officer's part (in explaining the requirements to me) and mine (in passing these on to my wife).

 

But I would imagine that the officers tend to be rather more fluent in English at the larger offices such as Chaengwattana (which I gather is yours), Jomtien and Chiang Mai.

Indeed that could have been an issue trying to explain I suspect (from experience). :smile: Luckily we are not asked for extras here in Bangkok

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Pungdo    249

My wifes ID card has the wrong spelling of my surname, the correct spelling which shows on her passport is Cade, but the idiots at the Amphur decided they would try to translate a simple 4 lettered English word into Thai and back to English and came up with Khadi, I have always joked that I will never need to get a divorce because I am not married to a woman with the surname Khadi.

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scorecard    8,368
17 hours ago, TGIR said:

1) It isn't an error, it's a petty official being an <deleted>.  If it was an error, why ignore it for 29 years?.

 

2) She and they said Bangkok.....possibly because that's where she got her I.D. card changed.  The process to change it was rather lengthy and involved visits to both the U.S. and Thai Embassy for "permission"....maybe permission to change I.D. registrations of some sort.  Not speaking Thai I missed a bit of it when it got complicated.

 

3) A Thai I.D. card was asked for;  whether that was done in the past I have no idea.  My wife prepares the paperwork.  She's smart enough not to put in anything they don't ask for.

 

 

 

 

Another example, all my Thai family officially have my Western family name.

 

The family name ends with an 's'.

 

We learned a long time ago to double check any documents from gov't. offices, banks etc., to ensure the 's' has been included and many times it wasn't and after showing my xxx passport, wife and sons Thai passport, with the correct spelling, then the officer then corrected the spelling.

 

But on several occasions, including when my son got married and his Thai wife wanted to change her family name to son's family (Western) name the spelling on her ID card and the spelling of son's family name and his new wife's new family name on the actual amphur marriage certificate was wrong. Response, 'never mind', next please. 

 

My son doesn't accept 'never mind' and he had to stand his ground to get it fixed, amongst several comments from the amphur staff that he was very rude, etc.

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TGIR    137
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17 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

Did you get a divorce?  You can not marry in both Thailand and USA - it is one or the other as both are fully legal in both countries.

 

Sorry I did miss the retirement - she should not even be involved in a retirement extension of stay beyond being perhaps a landlord.  

<removed> NO, we did not get a divorce and we are legally married in both Thailand and America.....have been since 1988.   I don't know what you're talking about on the retirement issue.  She is my dependent and therefor has to submit the same paperwork to immigration I do.  She is carrying an American passport and, as I mentioned, considers herself to be An American citizen, and "former" Thai citizen.  Perhaps that's why the big deal with changing her I.D. card.

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Tchooptip    1,685

My wife is seven years younger on her Thai id card, she is afraid it could be problematic sometimes. Why nobody knows.

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lopburi3    4,677

You can not get married in more than one country - you claim you got married in both Thailand and USA.  Marriage in either is marriage in the other. 

 

Most Thai would not be in her position as there is no need for it - she is Thai and can have a Thai passport/ID card and home registration and be here on that passport and not have any need to contact immigration.

 

Even using US passport she can extend her stay on basis of being Thai one year at a time.

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TGIR    137
11 hours ago, OJAS said:

In which case he'd better brace himself for having to surmount formidable hurdles in communicating with them since immigration officers' grasp of the English language tends to be minimal (at best) or completely non-existent (at worst) in my experience. That is one of the reasons why I always get my wife to accompany me to my local office at retirement extension of stay time.

 

Wrong on all counts.......I don't know why you don't read the entire thread.  OJAS, did you miss the part where she is Thai?, or the part where she fills out the paperwork every year?

 

14 hours ago, Evilbaz said:

If a retirement extension it has nothing to do with your wife - leave her at home then they have to deal only with you - The Applicant!

I'll make sure to tell the immigration officers that next time when I go without her.  It'll be good for a laugh I'm sure.

 

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ubonjoe    17,711
6 minutes ago, TGIR said:

NO, we did not get a divorce and we are legally married in both Thailand and America.....have been since 1988.   I don't know what you're talking about on the retirement issue.  She is my dependent and therefor has to submit the same paperwork to immigration I do.  She is carrying an American passport and, as I mentioned, considers herself to be An American citizen, and "former" Thai citizen.  Perhaps that's why the big deal with changing her I.D. card.

You did not have to get married again in the states. Normally it is not considered possible to marry the same person twice. 

Why is she not staying here as a Thai by using her Thai passport for entry?

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glegolo    1,257
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Like UbonJoe clarifies - This is an american issue NOT an european. Either we marry in Thailand, send translated documents to swedish gouverment and boom we are married in Sweden as well...

OR

we marry in Sweden thereafter we personally have to go to Amphue in Thailand and marry there (register marriage)..

 

Glegolo

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TGIR    137

After we were Married (in Bangkok, in Thai) our Attorney suggested she file an application for a Fiance Visa to the U.S.  He explained, rightly so, that applying for a Visa as my wife would mean a long wait.  Applying for a Fiance Visa took only two months and she emigrated to the U.S. having 90 days to get married or go home.  It worked perfectly for us and no-one in the U.S. really gives a crap where we were married and whether or not we also got married in Thailand.  She wanted to be a U.S. citizen, so she took her tests, waited the two years to be naturalized and is now officially a real live American.......until we get to immigration where she apparently is still required to submit with her application for extension of my retirement Visa, both her Blue book and her Thai I.D. card.  

 

I'm happy to know many of you are so well versed in Thai law, and available for answers to a lot of questions raised by TV members, but everyone's experience with immigration is different as we all know.  I've related the facts as I know them and it won't do any good for us to keep trying to litigate what's happened in the past, or why we should do this or that.  We follow the rules as instructed by Thai immigration officials.   

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ubonjoe    17,711
2 minutes ago, glegolo said:

Like UbonJoe clarifies - This is an american issue NOT an european. Either we marry in Thailand, send translated documents to swedish gouverment and boom we are married in Sweden as well.

Not every european country does that. The UK does not. A Thai marriage certificate  is accepted in the US after it is translated.

2 minutes ago, glegolo said:

we marry in Sweden thereafter we personally have to go to Amphue in Thailand and marry there (register marriage)..

You don't get married here again. You register your foreign marriage at an Amphoe and get a Kor Ror 22 to prove it.

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dotpoom    4,109

It happens. According to my wife's passport in the Thai translation she is a man (she's a female in the English translation).

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