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jeab1980    1,428
2 hours ago, Rancid said:

Hmm, perhaps you have failed to observe that N Korea isn't the only country under threat. NATO are relentlessly moving closer to the Russian borders with troops and missiles, where on this planet could you live safely if those idiots trigger a nuclear war with Russia? It could be localized to just the removal of Europe or it could go global.

 

The Pivot to Asia is about pressuring China, so we also have another potential flash point there. Maybe move to Australia, ah no, we idiots are also threatening the Chinese (our no.1 trading partner) so if things go ugly they will no doubt also lob something our way.

 

Best to sit back and enjoy life, all those that fretted during the cold war just ended up wasting their time.

So on one hand we have the Trump haters saying its all his fault,  now its Nato on another Flank who is the oppressor god it makes me laugh. Tell you what disband all the armies of Nato and let the greenpiece/tree huggers/make love not war not in my name brigade, sort it out! Young educated in Switzerland Kim would love that he would  rule the world in 2 months. Then the above mentioned Brigade would be crying into there camp fires pleading for Nato to help them. My response to them would be ! Not in my name.

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habanero    135
2 hours ago, Canuckabroad said:

Thailand is probably one of the safest countries to be if the US/NK go hot.  At least it is if your other options are North America or elsewhere in Asia.  And if you can afford the price spikes.

It's not going to matter where you are. The world will be thrown into financial ruin within a day. World stock markets will cease to exist. There will be no transfer of money to and from banks internationally. I don't know if Thailand will start to expell expats for having no funds. There will be no international flights. All aircraft will be a suspected threat. So, I'm not sure where you would go. So all this BS about who starts what isn't going to matter in the long run. While the nukes are flying, it will probably be an excuse to lob a few at some other countries. Like Syria or Iran.

  The fallout will be unimaginable.

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jeab1980    1,428
16 minutes ago, habanero said:

It's not going to matter where you are. The world will be thrown into financial ruin within a day. World stock markets will cease to exist. There will be no transfer of money to and from banks internationally. I don't know if Thailand will start to expell expats for having no funds. There will be no international flights. All aircraft will be a suspected threat. So, I'm not sure where you would go. So all this BS about who starts what isn't going to matter in the long run. While the nukes are flying, it will probably be an excuse to lob a few at some other countries. Like Syria or Iran.

  The fallout will be unimaginable.

Well iff theres no international flights you cant be expelled. As borders would be closed. For presuming all this would happen if NK was nuked?

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kingstonkid    848

The US has many agreements from WW2 and the Vietnam and Korean conflicts that it must abide to.

 

The first is that it has agreed to assist in the defence of many of the countries that KJU is threatening.

 

In the event that the North moved or started any equipment near the DMZ the South Koreans and Americans have enough power to match shot for shot.  

 

China during the Korean conflict or police action ( My dad did not see many cops there)  China was not interested in playing in the game.  They just did not want the US on their border.

 

If a land was was started by KJN then it would be met with force from the south.  There would be no support from China.  China can live with South Korea on his door and once North Korean is wiped out there is no longer a need for the US military to be there.  What China will do is line the border with infantry and artillery.  The purpose is not to fight but to keep all the  refugees out of China.

 

If KJN decides that he wants to push the button then I think the Chinese may have a plan (person) in place for that.

 

Trump will not provoke the war it would be a loss all the way around for the US.  I would suggest that his actions will be to shoot down the missiles or to eliminate Korean ship somewhere.   

I am ex military and SSF Canadian military. 

 

The best thing that could come of this is for the US/Russia and China to form a TRIAD force that would remove or persuade countries to remove or safeguard their missiles.

 

Can to countries that are batsh!t crazy co=exist with nukes.  Yeah just look at Pakistan and India.  They can !itch at each other threaten each other but every night in Lahore you can go to the WAGA border crossing and see a pageant on the basis of a changing of the guard involving both countries.

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Naam    11,191
3 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

you can go to the WAGA border crossing and see a pageant on the basis of a changing of the guard involving both countries.

 

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ilostmypassword    6,194
On 8/13/2017 at 4:50 AM, jeab1980 said:

I can refute all of it as the report was in 2014 if you have an up to date report from the same rad ill read it if not jog on. Why should we belive a report in a rag written by a man who has no in depth knowledge of a system. In 2014.

From July 14, 2016

U.S. missile defense system is ‘simply unable to protect the public,’ report says

The report notes that in “heavily scripted” flight tests that are “set up for success,” GMD interceptors have often failed to hit mock enemy warheads. In the seven most recent tests, interceptors destroyed their targets just three times, the report says — a finding consistent with conclusions of the Pentagon’s operational test and evaluation office.

Personnel conducting the tests know the speed, location and trajectory of the target ahead of time, as well as when it will be launched – information they would not have in a real attack.

The report relies extensively on articles published over the last two years by the Los Angeles Times, along with a National Academy of Sciences report and the findings of federal auditors and the Pentagon test office.

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-missile-defense-failings/

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jeab1980    1,428
2 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

From July 14, 2016

U.S. missile defense system is ‘simply unable to protect the public,’ report says

The report notes that in “heavily scripted” flight tests that are “set up for success,” GMD interceptors have often failed to hit mock enemy warheads. In the seven most recent tests, interceptors destroyed their targets just three times, the report says — a finding consistent with conclusions of the Pentagon’s operational test and evaluation office.

Personnel conducting the tests know the speed, location and trajectory of the target ahead of time, as well as when it will be launched – information they would not have in a real attack.

The report relies extensively on articles published over the last two years by the Los Angeles Times, along with a National Academy of Sciences report and the findings of federal auditors and the Pentagon test office.

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-missile-defense-failings/

Its now August 2017 keep fishing. A year is a long long time in software terms

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ilostmypassword    6,194
38 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

Its now August 2017 keep fishing. A year is a long long time in software terms

So you know it's a software problem? That's funny because it was identified as a component problem  of the thrusters. But not to worry. New missiles will have an improved version of that component. And the old missiles will also have the improved version of that component installed. Because to leave that old component in there would be crazy, right?

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Dan5    153

I doubt that there will be a war. But it is an interesting topic. What effect would a war in Korea, particularly one using nuclear weapons, have on Thailand. I have no idea at this point, but I would like to know.

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thaihome    1,048
2 hours ago, Dan5 said:

I doubt that there will be a war. But it is an interesting topic. What effect would a war in Korea, particularly one using nuclear weapons, have on Thailand. I have no idea at this point, but I would like to know.

 

There are some 100,000 Thais in Korea (and over 200,000 Americans). A large percentage of those would be dead in matter of days. Especially those in Seoul. 

 

South Korea is a major contributor to the world wide economy.  There is a huge investment in manufacturing facilities by S. Korean companies in Thailand.  

 

Like the rest of the world, Thailand would likely suffer a devastating loss of life and severe depression if war was break out on the Korean pensulia. 

TH 

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