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PM pledges to accelerate High Speed Rail project

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yellowboat    5,198
On 8/12/2017 at 11:24 AM, rooster59 said:

He said more immigration counters will open with air force officers to help immigration officials in case of staff shortage.

 

Sure Air Force personnel will love that, but it is a good idea for now.

 

On 8/12/2017 at 11:24 AM, rooster59 said:

Thailand will become a strategic rail hub on a network in which access to Europe will be provided in the future, he said.

Not likely, pretty sure Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar and Vietnam will want to make their own deals with China down the road.  Thailand is in no way in a leadership position in Southeast Asia. Their influence is small.  

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zzaa09    331

Fanciful priorities of the elite.

 

You know how that is.

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Dave67    1,045
12 hours ago, Ricardo said:

On the one hand it's good to see someone taking over-riding action, to unblock all the talk (10-years, 20-years ?) over the Chinese-project, and actually get it underway.  In theory.

 

But the government really needs to sort out the financing of this project, and I've not seen anything concrete about this yet, the Chinese aren't offering cheap-enough loans yet, and Thailand should not be shouldering all of the risk by financing it all themselves.

 

The ideal IMO would be a deal which prices & finances the project cheaply-enough, so that it will actually cover its costs (and then make a reasonable profit) once it's up-and-running, but it also has to be a deal which incentivises the Chinese to actually use it !  Or risk their delaying sending enough freight down-the-line to Laem Chabang until it suits them, with Thailand alone carrying the operating-losses, until that point.

 

Yes, in theory, this medium-speed heavy-freight link to the border with Laos will then enable shipments from here to feed into the existing Chinese freight-trains to Europe, though I wonder how many of those "29 other countries" will actually materialise ?  Yes, there will also be freight to/from Laos,  and Thai agricultural-products & cheap manufactured-goods moving North to China.  Yes there will be some improvement in domestic-transport for passengers to the North-East.

 

But none of those on their own would justify the project IMO.  This is mostly about enabling China to move its container-traffic down to Thai ports.  It stands or falls on that.  And the financing for the Thai-section is not yet in-place.

 

That's where the current PM should be focussing his attention right now, doing a deal which makes economic & financial sense for Thailand in the long term.

Yes, High speed and freight are not compatible for many reasons. One reason is you won't want a freight train with a 40 Tonne axle load clattering over a highly tuned High speed railway. Head wear and something called side cut which is common in freight lines because of the weight of the wheel load, The wheel of freight train has a different a profile  to high speed train wheels and would chew up the rails set at very low tolerance of 1435 +1 -1 freight could operate within safety standard of 1435 +25  -14 so the wheels are not maintained to high speed standards. Radius of curve is also an issue, But I'll leave it there.

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ChrisY1    7,489

Saturdays news: Accelerate train line...Monday news: Can't proceed as loans too expensive......idiots in authority!!

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Redline    914

Seems the weapons are on hold.  Get the Bangkok trains finished!!!  Thousands of hours on the roads, pollution, loss of productivity, expenditures on fuel...focus!  The lines are years behind already :saai:

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