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cheeryble    632

(Chiangmai Immigration)

 

Hi there

 

My retirement extension ends Sept 28.

A friend's ends Sept 14th.

My wife has previously paid someone from her hospital she works 500bt to go and pick up the number early.

I think it entailed two visits to Airport IMM, one early and another to get the appointment time a wee bit later.

 

I believe one can now do the extension 45 days early?

IF so, friend and I think maybe we could share one person to go and get an appointment for both of us for the same day, give her a bit more as incentive.

 

1. Think this would be OK?

2. Presume it's Promenada?

3. We've heard the crazy-early times have become more civilised. What time should she go to be safe?

4. Want to make it simple and pain free as poss about times etc......last time she woke up wife about three times on phone......to avoid this what would be her instruction sheet?

 

thanks for help!

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Dazinoz    147

I know a lot of people don't like to pay the money but I use a visa agent. They message me when near renewal time. I goto their office and sign all the paperwork they have already prepared. In the next day or 2 I go back to their office and they drive me to immigration at Promenada and get photo taken. This usual is less than 30 minutes at immigration. All done.They then do the next 4 x 90 day reports in that fee and I only have to goto their office, no waiting in queues.

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maybefitz    182

Just done mine. Arrived 6.15 am, done by 11.30. Note, a new TM 7, slight different page 2. Also now want a copy page of your 90 day sheet. Photo size now 6 x 4 cm.

 

I was 10 in the queue, only about 20 in total, yesterday.

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NancyL    6,765

Recent reports are that Chiang Mai has indeed become more "civilized" if you consider arriving at 6 am and getting out by noon to be civilized.  At least it's an improvement.  

 

You can apply up to 45 days early.  

 

You cannot have a third party get a queue number for you.  You can have a third party park their bum on a stool and wait in the queue, but when the Imm. officer (or intern) starts to pass out the queue tickets at 8.30 am, they look at passports.  Now, the visa agents have their own Imm. officer upstairs so they don't queue with the "retail customers" which is the main reason the morning queue is more sensible.  You're just competing with the other old codgers and their paid sitters.

 

Every time I go to CM Immigration, even for something unrelated to a visa extension (i.e. 90 day report, re-entry permit), I make a point of arriving at 8.15 am so I can watching the morning queue process.  I've been maybe 5 times since December and every time, everyone who was in the retirement queue at 8:30 am received a queue ticket for that day.  No one was turned away.  

 

For my own retirement extension application in January (45 days ahead of expiration), I tempted fate by arriving at 8:45 am, after they started to process the queue, figuring I'd get turned away but still got a queue number for the day.  Of course, my interview wasn't until later in the afternoon, so I had a nice breakfast and went to see LaLa Land at the theater to kill time.  Don't understand why everyone thought that movie was so good. 

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StevieAus    70
2 hours ago, Dazinoz said:

I know a lot of people don't like to pay the money but I use a visa agent. They message me when near renewal time. I goto their office and sign all the paperwork they have already prepared. In the next day or 2 I go back to their office and they drive me to immigration at Promenada and get photo taken. This usual is less than 30 minutes at immigration. All done.They then do the next 4 x 90 day reports in that fee and I only have to goto their office, no waiting in queues.

Totally agree if you can afford the fee I think it's worth the cost certainly for me as it's a 5 hour round trip to Chiang Mai

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jeab1980    1,478
3 hours ago, Dazinoz said:

I know a lot of people don't like to pay the money but I use a visa agent. They message me when near renewal time. I goto their office and sign all the paperwork they have already prepared. In the next day or 2 I go back to their office and they drive me to immigration at Promenada and get photo taken. This usual is less than 30 minutes at immigration. All done.They then do the next 4 x 90 day reports in that fee and I only have to goto their office, no waiting in queues.

The all important question how much do they charge.

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Dazinoz    147
3 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

The all important question how much do they charge.

Its like any thing you buy. Shop around.

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jeab1980    1,478
2 minutes ago, Dazinoz said:

Its like any thing you buy. Shop around.

How much do you pay?

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cheeryble    632
Recent reports are that Chiang Mai has indeed become more "civilized" if you consider arriving at 6 am and getting out by noon to be civilized.  At least it's an improvement.  

 

You can apply up to 45 days early.  

 

You cannot have a third party get a queue number for you.  You can have a third party park their bum on a stool and wait in the queue, but when the Imm. officer (or intern) starts to pass out the queue tickets at 8.30 am, they look at passports.  Now, the visa agents have their own Imm. officer upstairs so they don't queue with the "retail customers" which is the main reason the morning queue is more sensible.  You're just competing with the other old codgers and their paid sitters.

 

Every time I go to CM Immigration, even for something unrelated to a visa extension (i.e. 90 day report, re-entry permit), I make a point of arriving at 8.15 am so I can watching the morning queue process.  I've been maybe 5 times since December and every time, everyone who was in the retirement queue at 8:30 am received a queue ticket for that day.  No one was turned away.  

 

For my own retirement extension application in January (45 days ahead of expiration), I tempted fate by arriving at 8:45 am, after they started to process the queue, figuring I'd get turned away but still got a queue number for the day.  Of course, my interview wasn't until later in the afternoon, so I had a nice breakfast and went to see LaLa Land at the theater to kill time.  Don't understand why everyone thought that movie was so good. 

 

Thanks for the advice everyone but I'd prefer to pay someone to pick up my number.......id have to go later with the agent anyway and it's a few thou difference and timing on the appointments as I remember is pretty punctual.

 

Nancy, great info about the later time.......the one problem is you say people can't get others' numbers.

Are you quite sure if so has there been a change, because the year before last I think it was we did just that, paid someone to get the number, then they returned before 9 to get the time. Knowing you I'd dare say you're right. Do you think if I tell them I turn the lights out about three eye make an exception?(no answer required).

 

Thanks

 

 

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cheeryble    632

Hmmm a small addition my friend points out that I am doing retirement extension and he is doing marriage extension. He says they're different queues. Correct?


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Psimbo    1,313

I love Chiang Mai but one thing that puts me off about moving up there is immigration- turning u at dark o'clock fora 90 day report is ridiculous. 

 

it took me a grand total of about 10 minutes (less travelling time) to renew my retirement extension last month in Pphuket.

 

I understand there are moves to upgrade and improve the buildings and service in Chiang Mai and I hope it happens soon.

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NancyL    6,765

To answer a couple questions -- yes marriage and retirement extensions are indeed separate queues, not even next to each other, at Promenada.

 

If a third party is going to physically be handed the queue ticket for you, then they need a Power of Attorney form, with tax stamp.  This is one of the documents that a visa agent has you sign when you visit them ahead of going out to Immigration, so the visa agent can take your passport, send someone to wait in the queue, present your passport, the POA form and get a queue ticket for you.  At least, this was the procedure before Imm. went to the newer system of having an Imm. officer just for the visa agents in their upstairs office.  Now, I think that the agents simply call in and reserve an appointment, no need to send someone out to wait in an early morning queue.  

There is absolutely no need to turn up in the dark to submit a 90 day report and people who do so are gluttons for punishment.  Yes, sometimes I'm one of them, but that's just because I want to see the latest enhancements that Imm. has made in handling the early morning queues, not because I think that's the only way to submit a 90 day report.  I'm amazed at how 30 - 40 people are in the 90 day report queue at 8:30 am, some having arrived at 6 am or earlier.

 

The two Immigration ladies who process 90 day reports are efficient and quick.  They're capable of doing at least 180 per day and have bragged to me that some days they get up to 200 if there are enough customers.  It's very, very rare that they turn away customers for 90 day reports and that's only when someone arrives at 3 pm and expects to get their report done that day.  In fact, most people arriving in the afternoon are seen quickly.

 

Customers who mail-in their 90 day reports have high satisfaction.  Remember to mail in your report early, following instructions at the top of the Chiang Mai forum.  At times, online reporting works also.

 

 

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