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Capital punishment not an effective deterrent, say experts

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PeCeDe    168
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Agreed, but it's a bit like bolting the gate after the horse is gone. That murderer will not commit the crime again, true, but what about the next guy, and the next. Why is Britains and many other countries murder rate so much less than the US? Some say it's the relative absence of guns, maybe it's also education, history and other factors. Britain no longer has the death penalty and the murder rate hasn't changed to a large extent. So what's different? Certainly not Britains care more about life or are in some way superior. I don't have the answer, wish I did.

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coulson    800
totally agree ....  and if used in other countries for drug sellers, pushers and traffickers they wouldn't be in such a mess.


The punishment is only effective if handed down to the correct culprit in the first place.

The justice system in Thailand is not conducive to administering appropriate capital punishment, therefore it is not at all effective here.

Look what happened in the Philippines, not a complete mess you say?

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PeCeDe    168

Murder rates 3-4 years ago by country according to the UN.

 

USA 4.88 per 100k has death penalty in many States

Thailand 3.51 per 100k has death penalty

Canada 1.68 per 100k does not have death penalty

UK 0.92 per 100k does not have death penalty

 

If you just use statistics, then it seems the death penalty had little to no deterrence. Perhaps the real question should be why the huge gap between US, Thailand at the higher end and then the Uk and Canada at the lower end in murder rates?

 

BTW, there are many countries whose murder rate is far higher.

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taffeylad    6

People who believe murderers and child rapist deserve to live are misguided.

Even other prisoners are known to have meted out direct punishment to certain types of murderers while in prison. There is a limit that society will accept.

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PeCeDe    168
5 minutes ago, Farang99 said:

You don't get many repeat offenders!

Absolutely, but that doesn't answer the original question, there are still plenty of murderers "to be," where the death penalty is not on their mind when they  decide to kill and therefore it's not a deterrent.

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KKr    295
On 8/13/2017 at 5:30 AM, rooster59 said:

that in practice capital punishment had been unable to deter repeat offences.

indeed, and even more so, if those punished would be out on Parole the deterrent effect is negative.

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KKr    295
1 hour ago, PeCeDe said:

Absolutely, but that doesn't answer the original question, there are still plenty of murderers "to be," where the death penalty is not on their mind when they  decide to kill and therefore it's not a deterrent.

I think there is a difference between someone killing in a rage, who does not have the capability to control himself in that instance (p.e. see your child being raped) and claims temporary insanity), and someone planning to kill, get pleasure of the killing, or premeditated carrying weapons just in case p.e. someone is not polite in the elevator. 

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Stargrazer9889    898

The Death penalty is indeed 100 percernt effective. I have not had to talk to anyone who has been

put to death yet. The Guillotine should be the way for the death penalty, as the body of the deceased

can be used for medical purpose. Even the eyes can be used. It may not be 100 percent effective as

a deterrent as there are some people who will kill, regardless, and people who will be drug dealers

no matter what,  but if they are caught in Singapore well I guess there is at least one place in the world

where some will not go and be stupid at.  China has a pretty cheap method as well, a shot in the head

so that does not cost the country too much to end the life of a criminal. Guess you can see that I am not

in favor of Murderers , especially getting to keep on living after they have ended someones life.

Geeze

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