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Yinglove    43
3 minutes ago, trogers said:

Then, you are raising the point about justice not being just. Nothing to do with whether capital punishment is correct for the crime.

 

I have not heard of any cases over the past 50 years in Malaysia and Singapore that executed criminals were innocent.

 

 

Ah, those bastions of press freedom.

 

Looks like you'll have to cut Malaysia from your list in the near future though.

 

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/malaysia-moves-closer-to-scrapping-mandatory-death-penalty-for-drug-traffickers-4786515/

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trogers    9,288
1 minute ago, Yinglove said:

Ah, those bastions of press freedom.

 

Looks like you'll have to cut Malaysia from your list in the near future though.

 

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/malaysia-moves-closer-to-scrapping-mandatory-death-penalty-for-drug-traffickers-4786515/

It happens only if it happens.

 

I doubt it would happen. They are already struggling with an uptick in addiction.

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trogers    9,288
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15 minutes ago, BasalBanality said:

Your exceptions of the rule, Japan, Taiwan and Singapore have relatively decent human rights and freedoms, their state of social stability and resilience to external influences seems to be doing relatively well.

 

I'm fortunate to have residency in one of the exceptions, it's a safe harbor.

Don't know about other countries, but a Singapore court judge has to witness an execution by hanging. The purpose is to drill into court judges that their duties to dispense justice is a very serious one.

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BasalBanality    227
7 minutes ago, trogers said:

Don't know about other countries, but a Singapore court judge has to witness an execution by hanging. The purpose is to drill into court judges that their duties to dispense justice is a very serious one.

It is a real pity they do not allow public viewing of the hanging. 

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Yinglove    43
Just now, BasalBanality said:

It is a real pity they do not allow public viewing of the hanging. 

There is public viewing of capital punishment - if you're keen just relocate to Suadi Arabia.

 

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12DrinkMore    2,636
17 minutes ago, Yinglove said:

Ah, those bastions of press freedom.

 

Looks like you'll have to cut Malaysia from your list in the near future though.

 

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/malaysia-moves-closer-to-scrapping-mandatory-death-penalty-for-drug-traffickers-4786515/

 

There is a movement to fundamentalism in Malaysia.

 

https://www.rt.com/news/344728-malaysia-sharia-law-bill/

 

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The Malaysian government has pledged its support for an Islamic penal code seeking to expand the jurisdiction of Shariah law by introducing harsh punishments like amputations and stoning, shocking its predominantly multi-ethnic society.

 

Euphemistically referred to as "enhanced punishment". :post-4641-1156693976:

 

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Prime Minister Najib sought to play the situation down, saying the bill was "misunderstood."

"It's not hudud, but what we refer to as enhanced punishment," he was quoted as saying by Reuters during a news conference after meeting leaders of his ruling United Malays National Organization (UMNO) party.

 

 

Malaysia is certainly not a civilised country, and is heading backwards 1,500 years. 

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BasalBanality    227
2 minutes ago, Yinglove said:

There is public viewing of capital punishment - if you're keen just relocate to Suadi Arabia.

 

Perhaps a quick getaway, no need to relocate since air connectivity is rather convenient, all one needs now is for the public execution dates at Chop-chop Square in Deera, Riyadh to be made available on the internet.

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Pdaz    2,432

Once convicted there is no chance of recidivism . So seems pretty effective to me. We could save millions by executing all the multiple murderers, rapists and terrorists. No point to burden the taxpayer with their upkeep. The one thing the World isn't short of is humans. One conviction - Jail.. Convicted again, - Bang, bang !

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gummy    347

Here we go again.  So it may not be a good deterrent but it sure is the best way I know of to stop the person re-offending. 

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Yinglove    43
1 minute ago, Pdaz said:

Once convicted there is no chance of recidivism . So seems pretty effective to me. We could save millions by executing all the multiple murderers, rapists and terrorists. No point to burden the taxpayer with their upkeep. The one thing the World isn't short of is humans. One conviction - Jail.. Convicted again, - Bang, bang !

And the wrongly convicted?

How do you undo the bang bang?

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Yinglove    43
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4 minutes ago, gummy said:

Here we go again.  So it may not be a good deterrent but it sure is the best way I know of to stop the person re-offending. 

Charles Manson was convict in 1971 and jailed - he is still alive in 2017 and hasn't killed anyone since 1971.

 

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-list-those-freed-death-row

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BasalBanality    227
5 minutes ago, 12DrinkMore said:

 

There is a movement to fundamentalism in Malaysia.

 

https://www.rt.com/news/344728-malaysia-sharia-law-bill/

 

 

Euphemistically referred to as "enhanced punishment". :post-4641-1156693976:

 

 

Malaysia is certainly not a civilised country, and is heading backwards 1,500 years. 

Cosying up with the House of Saud tends to leave one with the stench of Wahhabism.

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gummy    347
3 minutes ago, Yinglove said:

And the wrongly convicted?

How do you undo the bang bang?

same as justifying collateral damage when bombing Iraq or Syria.  It is unfortunate but nonetheless the correct thing to do.  And Sure as hell corruption would stop pronto if the penalty for taking any bribe was termination

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Pdaz    2,432
Just now, Yinglove said:

And the wrongly convicted?

How do you undo the bang bang?

DNA and forensic evidence is far more certain than previous methods of investigatione. If you re-read my post you will see I said death for second conviction. So rape once go to jail. Do it again, go to hell. It cases where there is irrefutable evidence of guilt. ie caught red handed or witnessed by many ( like in a terror attack ) I wouldn't even waste money on a trial. 

Most of the scum in jails have a long list of prior convictions and will never be "reformed" They have chosen to break the law and live outside of society. No pity or hand wringing needed just get rid of them 

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Yinglove    43
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5 minutes ago, gummy said:

same as justifying collateral damage when bombing Iraq or Syria.  It is unfortunate but nonetheless the correct thing to do.  And Sure as hell corruption would stop pronto if the penalty for taking any bribe was termination

Yep, it's merely unfortunate when it's a stranger being wrongly executed - bet  your opinion would be rather different if it were you with your neck in a noose.

 

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