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Two Germans killed in Samui road accident, Russian charged

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This is a very sad story. Honestly I am not surprised this doesn't happen more often on Samui. There is little or no Policing at all. They turn up after the carnage, it's disgraceful really. People are pretty much free to do what they want (if they have the stones) and it often does not end well.

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58 minutes ago, MadMuhammad said:

Yeah it was a bit of a mess. Fractured skull, subdural haemotoma, acquired brain injury, fractured cheek and sinuses ($1200 full face helmet), brachial plexus injury (arm movement coming back now), sucking chest wound (punctured lung), fractured all my ribs, bruised heart, ruptured spleen, traumatic hernia, 3 fractured vertebrae, fractured left knee, fractured and penetrated left ankle.

2 weeks in a coma and 3 months in a brain injury ward. I still take it as a win though! ?

'Thanks for the kind thought 

Know how lucky you feel, had almost the same injuries nearly five years ago. The whole investigation blamed the pickup driver, several Thai witnesses and a good investigator. Had several court appearances trying to get her insurance to pay up. After seven months and still in a wheel chair, the judge said she would not award damages until I paid a one thousand baht fine for contributing to the accident. If I was not there, it would not have happened.

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2 minutes ago, Mister T said:

Know how lucky you feel, had almost the same injuries nearly five years ago. The whole investigation blamed the pickup driver, several Thai witnesses and a good investigator. Had several court appearances trying to get her insurance to pay up. After seven months and still in a wheel chair, the judge said she would not award damages until I paid a one thousand baht fine for contributing to the accident. If I was not there, it would not have happened.

Unbelievable. Actually it is, TIT. I was extremely lucky, if you can say lucky, to have my accident in Melbourne, Aus. Victoria has one of the best transport accident insurance schemes on the planet and they took care of me extremely well.

If this had have happened to me in Thailand I feel I'd unfortunately be a dribbling mess with zero mobility.

I'm still shaking my head you had to pay the 1k. Hope you're up and about now mate.

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14 minutes ago, MadMuhammad said:

Hope you're up and about now mate.

Thank you, graduated to a walking stick. Have lots of fun at airports, bells and whistles going off at screening. Lift my trouser legs, flash the scars and they wave me on through.

Just a small warning for others, as with MM, I had full riding safety gear on that I bought in Aus, would have been dead without it.

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Using my great wisdom and assorted life experiences I proclaim the driver of the pickup to be at fault! What happened to him? Did he even stop to give aid after causing the accident? 

Oh wait, 

just in case it is taken as a serious comment, this is tongue in cheek

levity people

but on a more serious note RIP to the victims. Hope the Russian fares well. 

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8 hours ago, docshock13 said:

Unless I missed something, it seems the Germans on the bike entered the Russian's lane in an attempt to overtake the pickup and smashed head on into Russian. 

If so, how can the Russian be charged? 

It may have something to do with that he drove over the speed limit as stated in the article (in addition to that it may  appear signs of alcohol in the blood samples taken later)

More information to come...

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33 minutes ago, ttrd said:

It may have something to do with that he drove over the speed limit as stated in the article (in addition to that it may  appear signs of alcohol in the blood samples taken later)

More information to come...

Yep that could be it.  My post was going on the first report which was sparse on details. 

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One more data point.  2 Germans on a 2 wheeler and a Russian in a 4 wheeler experience the same accident.

 

The one with 4 wheels survived.  The guys on 2 wheels didn't.

 

Condolences to the loved ones left behind.

 

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I'm surprised to read the few posts that refer to the Russian being perceived guilty simply because he was here! I experienced this in Saudi Arabia and found it just as ludicrous then. If you are in country legally then you have every right to be there / here.

 

I live in fear of someday having a child on a bike under my wheels. I wonder what the scenario would be in this instance as the child, under aged and an unlicensed driver, definitely should not have been on the road... 

 

Anybody had any experience of this?

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7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Thats why it's important to drive here with 1st Class insurance with a 200,000 baht bail bond.

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It's even worse in Laos because the police won't accept a bail bond. They will impound the vehicle and driver until "compensation" has been paid to the grieving family regardless of whether the victim was at fault or not. No doubt they take their cut for services rendered. It's all about making money, not enforcing laws and serving justice.  And note that if the victim was at fault, the insurance company of the surviving party will NOT reimburse the money that is paid as "compensation". If their client was not at fault then why should they pay??   

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When you drive a car and you see some "kamikazi" ☠️ overtaking, just pull over to your left and don't you think that have right to stay in your way. 

Especially there could be no witness/no camera. 

This is Thailand, people life is more important than your "driving rights".

The law could work different for Thai.

law is flexible, you know. ?

 

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10 hours ago, docshock13 said:

Unless I missed something, it seems the Germans on the bike entered the Russian's lane in an attempt to overtake the pickup and smashed head on into Russian. 

If so, how can the Russian be charged? 

The mysteries of the orient.:saai:

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No later than yesterday night in Samui between Chaweng and Lamai, we found ourselves face to face with a car overtaking a lorry.

It was at the top of the hill we saw the car at the last second, my wife was driving maybe at 50kh not more, and there was enough room on the left to avoid it.

But should have we driven a little too fast, not sure we could have avoided this car?  As a rule, personally, I almost never ever overtake anyone on  Samui's mined roads.

I am particularly sorry for the young man pillion passenger. The driver was probably driving too fast, but only probably since the Russian said: was overtaking a pickup truck on the two-lane road when it crashed into the front of his car going fast...So? 

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